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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2525927)
89,000 is the E175. The E190 is heavier. You are kind of making my point. They restrict the range to get the E175 down to 86,000. You can bet over the last 10 years Mitsubishi pulled out every stop to get it to 86,000. With the new changes I doubt it will even make the 87,300 they claim. The geared engines are heavy.
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Originally Posted by FlyingKat
(Post 2526953)
Not if its on a separate certificate.
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FWIW Delta has already given its intent to separate from Trans States regardless, so maybe they are planning on going it alone. One of the US regionals is going to buddy up with the foreign carriers, TSA is in the best position to do that.
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 2527079)
FWIW Delta has already given its intent to separate from Trans States regardless, so maybe they are planning on going it alone. One of the US regionals is going to buddy up with the foreign carriers, TSA is in the best position to do that.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2527101)
TSA does not do any regional flying for Delta that I am aware of so not sure what notice they would give. They could cancel their contracts with AMR and UAL. It would be quite a undertaking to replace that revenue from foreign connections. They would need to set up a reservation system and completely remake their entire route network. Acquiring slots and gates at the appropriate international gateways would be difficult at best and relocating all their hubs and crews quite a undertaking. That would need to be done while suffering a massive revenue drop.
I don’t see that happening. |
Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 2527112)
Trans states owns Compass, and GoJet. The Delta scope clause would prohibit them from operating the MRJ, even on a different cert.
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 2527112)
Trans states owns Compass, and GoJet. The Delta scope clause would prohibit them from operating the MRJ, even on a different cert.
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Originally Posted by Bloggs
(Post 2527284)
Then why didn't it prohibit Republic operating E190's?
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 2527112)
Trans states owns Compass, and GoJet. The Delta scope clause would prohibit them from operating the MRJ, even on a different cert.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2527075)
You would be incorrect. Get a copy of the major airlines scope. A simple dodge like that is covered. I believe the typical language is “or any company owned or operationally controlled by the parent company”.
You would be incorrect. Republic Holdings flew 190s on the Republic Certificate for years and they were prohibited by scope at American, Delta, Continental and United. Scope is why regionals went to multiple certificates in first place. Republic was able to do this because the UAL, AA, CO, and DL aircraft were on the Shuttle and Chautauqua certificates, not the Republic Certificate. Republic put the 170s on the Chautauqua certificate initially and the APA fined them because it was a scope violation. Republic Holdings buys Shuttle America, puts the 170s there and the scope issues were resolved. Regionals have proven very adept at creating holding companies with multiple certificates that get around mainline scope. |
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