More bad news for Trans States Pilots
11-07-2008, 04:18 PM
#141
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It would be insanely expensive for Huly to add desert a/c and park wholly owned a/c. It is still a different type to add to the fleet/ops spec. Just b/c it is the same pilot type rating doesn’t make it 100% the same a/c. Just ask operators of the dc-9/md-80/md-90. I think this it getting blown way out of proportion.
BTW…It’s Friday…. Where’s that BIG ANOUNCEMNET!? I been waiting ever Friday for 20 years.
BTW…It’s Friday…. Where’s that BIG ANOUNCEMNET!? I been waiting ever Friday for 20 years.
11-07-2008, 04:30 PM
#142
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Originally Posted by JiffyLube
It would be insanely expensive for Huly to add desert a/c and park wholly owned a/c. It is still a different type to add to the fleet/ops spec. Just b/c it is the same pilot type rating doesn’t make it 100% the same a/c. Just ask operators of the dc-9/md-80/md-90. I think this it getting blown way out of proportion.
BTW…It’s Friday…. Where’s that BIG ANOUNCEMNET!? I been waiting ever Friday for 20 years.
BTW…It’s Friday…. Where’s that BIG ANOUNCEMNET!? I been waiting ever Friday for 20 years.
You're also wrong about the pilot ratings, which can be taken care of in two days of differences training. Viola, now you have a new less senior airline with a weaker union (if that's even possible) that has a much better relationship with management, rather than the bitter group at TSA. I think it's despicable, but if you look at it from a perspective of not giving a rats *** about employees, it all falls into place.
11-07-2008, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JiffyLube
wholly owned a/c.
and think what he'll save in our contract negotiations? we may have the opportunity to strike as a more friendly NMB comes in, but we now have no leg to stand on since the guys at GoJet are willing to fly for less. How could we ask for a raise?
This is a win/win for Hulas. If he keeps TSA around in a smaller capacity, he has two pilot groups...one of which is willing to undersell the other. If he dissolves TSA, he gets rid of ALPA
11-07-2008, 05:28 PM
#146
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So I got an email from the TSA MEC that says the rumors are unconfirmed at this point and asks that everybody remain professional and just does their job right now. They are forming a strategic plan to address the issue and will give us info when it's available. I'd copy/paste the email but i'm not sure if that's kosher or not. Off to drink beer.
11-07-2008, 05:40 PM
#147
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i guess ill be the one...its not something that would be bad to post at all. as a matter of fact, you said everythign almost word for word...
Trans States Pilots,
It has come to our attention that rumors on the property indicate GoJet airlines is purchasing 50-seat aircraft. This information has not been confirmed. Your MEC requests that each and every one of you maintain your professionalism while this information is being investigated. At no time does the MEC condone any illegal job action, and your MEC asks all pilots to maintain all current practices.
Your MEC and ALPA staff are developing a strategic plan to address this situation and information will be released as it becomes available.
Trans States MEC
Trans States Pilots,
It has come to our attention that rumors on the property indicate GoJet airlines is purchasing 50-seat aircraft. This information has not been confirmed. Your MEC requests that each and every one of you maintain your professionalism while this information is being investigated. At no time does the MEC condone any illegal job action, and your MEC asks all pilots to maintain all current practices.
Your MEC and ALPA staff are developing a strategic plan to address this situation and information will be released as it becomes available.
Trans States MEC
11-07-2008, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by expectholding
i guess ill be the one...its not something that would be bad to post at all. as a matter of fact, you said everythign almost word for word...
Trans States Pilots,
It has come to our attention that rumors on the property indicate GoJet airlines is purchasing 50-seat aircraft. This information has not been confirmed. Your MEC requests that each and every one of you maintain your professionalism while this information is being investigated. At no time does the MEC condone any illegal job action, and your MEC asks all pilots to maintain all current practices.
Your MEC and ALPA staff are developing a strategic plan to address this situation and information will be released as it becomes available.
Trans States MEC
Trans States Pilots,
It has come to our attention that rumors on the property indicate GoJet airlines is purchasing 50-seat aircraft. This information has not been confirmed. Your MEC requests that each and every one of you maintain your professionalism while this information is being investigated. At no time does the MEC condone any illegal job action, and your MEC asks all pilots to maintain all current practices.
Your MEC and ALPA staff are developing a strategic plan to address this situation and information will be released as it becomes available.
Trans States MEC
11-08-2008, 12:35 PM
#149
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Originally Posted by boilerpilot
wrong. First about the aircraft, which hulas leases, he does not own them. It makes perfect sense to simply allow the TSA contracts (which have always been tied to leases) to expire and add 50 seaters to gojet, which can be aquired for fire sale rates due to the economy right now.
You're also wrong about the pilot ratings, which can be taken care of in two days of differences training. Viola, now you have a new less senior airline with a weaker union (if that's even possible) that has a much better relationship with management, rather than the bitter group at TSA. I think it's despicable, but if you look at it from a perspective of not giving a rats *** about employees, it all falls into place.
You're also wrong about the pilot ratings, which can be taken care of in two days of differences training. Viola, now you have a new less senior airline with a weaker union (if that's even possible) that has a much better relationship with management, rather than the bitter group at TSA. I think it's despicable, but if you look at it from a perspective of not giving a rats *** about employees, it all falls into place.
The end is neigh.
11-08-2008, 12:47 PM
#150
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Originally Posted by CaptainCarl
I suspect pilots are Hulas' biggest expense right now. It would not surprise me at all if he liquidated Trans States in the near future. GoJet is going to ruin a lot of lives.
The end is neigh.
The end is neigh.
Since it is HIS company, it is within his rights to structure it however he sees fit. Based on these decisions, it will either succeed or fail...time will tell. Considering its on its 25th year of "aviation excellence"
, I would tend to think that it will continue to survive. And, unfortunately, from the viewpoint of management only and with the current surplus of pilots out there on the street begging and hoping for a job, we're just a noisy flock, easily dealt with.
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