Herbie

The bottom line here boys and girls is that this is not our (the regionals) flying. It belongs to mainline and they farm it out to us, period. IF you work for a regional, you are a contract airline pilot, that is all. ASA didn't steal flying from Comair and GoJet didn't steal it from ASA. Delta decided who got it, just like United does and US Airways does.

Nothing is ever going to get better until this flying goes back to mainline where it belongs instead of being passed around the regionals like the town bicycle. Like it or not folks, that is the way it is. And it surely will not get any better as long as all we (pilots) do is point the fingers at each other for who has screwed up this industry more. Management is the problem. They feed on this stuff. Scope is the key, and it is hopefully something that will start going back in the UniCal CBA. IF not, well then I guess I am doomed to sit in the right seat and waterski for the rest of my career.

RgrMurdock

Just wait until American scope gets blown wide open

Time2Fly

Regardless of who anyone works for, this comment is ignorant and asinine.

The world doesn’t work of off who SHOULD be doing the flying. And who decides which regional should be doing the flying is the code share partner, not you. Just because you don’t like something doesn’t make it wrong.


I have friends and acquaintances at most of the regionals and I don’t hear them b!tching when flying is shifted from one regional to another. Like has been said many times, this argument is getting very old.


I think almost everyone agrees that the way GJ was created was unfortunate and that the original people that went over to start the company took advantage of the situation. It has been 7 years now, at some point you have to stop looking backward and start looking forward…

RgrMurdock

start looking forward to the furloughs? lol

Stew75

I am! 2.5 weeks and counting.

fly4michelle

They are the same to me. Then again I came from the business world into aviation, so I am familiar with competition. No other business in the world is full of people like aviation that thinks they are owed something or thinks that because they have a contract once---it should always belong to them and anyone that takes it away or is awarded it is bad. Whiners.

DryMotorBoatin

Ask teachers how they feel about vouchers.

block30

Uhhh people don't think their toil is worth something in other industries? Epecially when it takes up to six figures of one's own money and years of their life developing a skill? I would call it a sense of fair play. When the carpet gets yanked out from under, I am not surprised the people affected are mad.

I am not trying to fight with you. My real rub with this is that the creation of Go Jet gets to go down as a W in the management play books thus mgt has a proven tactic that WORKS. Not good for the industry. I am sure someone will chime in and say neither are regionals, but a line was crossed. Too bad we could not as a group stand up and say "No, we won't be circumvented!". We actually proved the opposite.

RgrMurdock

I'm amazed you don't see the difference between competition and an alter ego. Why do you see unions at other regionals go to such great lengths to prevent what happened at TSA? I'm sure you would jump at the chance to fly a 777 for one more dollar than the CRJ7 because it makes good business sense. And i'm sure you wouldn't be mad if you were just about to upgrade at go jet and they created go jet 2 and give all your flying to them. Then a few years later you're furloughed. You wouldn't be mad at all? Oh it's just good business.

minimwage4

The other regionals are fine, a more relevant question would be why didn't the TSA union go to great lengths to prevent Gojet. I think they were in major denial about what Gojet was.