Originally Posted by turbinepic (Post 1755892)

I can only comment on what I've seen since I've been with TSA. (orginal 121 new-hire, Aug. 2007) (oh, and btw... NOT ex-Comair :-)
Now that I'm an FO again, I find myself sitting in the cockpit, nearly every single flight, waiting for something to do. I have done everything I can do without paperwork. Funny thing is, only CA can print paperwork at TSA. What a stoopid policy! What a waste of time! I worked for a Delta carrier prior to TSA. Every time we pulled up to a gate the gate agent was there, waiting for us with paperwork in hand. I thought it was SOP, but looking back, it saved soooooo much time! Now I twiddle my fingers in the cockpit while I wait for CA to go find a working printer and come back with paperwork so I can finish my pre-flight duties. Really? On a 24 minute turn we're gonna send the CA on a paperwork printer goose chase? The other thing I've noticed is that, at TSA, the last thing the CA wants to do is close the door. All passengers boarded? Check. Paperwork in hand? Check. "OMG, DON'T CLOSE THE FREAKIN' DOOR!!!!!!" Why not? What are we waiting for? Do we really need to wait to plug everything into the FMS before we close and drop the brake? Really? Why? So many times I've heard, "Oh well, looks like we're gonna be late again." I'm sorry to say it, (because I know I'll get chit) but Delta instilled an environment of, "On-time Airline." No one at TSA cares about on-time performance. PAX boarded with paperwork in hand? Close the freakin' door!!!!! Drop the brake and get this show on the road. The 5% of the time we have to open again and kick someone off is insignificant. But the on-time performance will increase drastically. Frustrated...

Originally Posted by AviHaters (Post 1756045)

You don't want to be super eager closing the door for a few reasons. One is the constant battle with W&B and forward CG. Load up 50 or 50+jumpseat and you could easily need ballast with light bag load. And some stations are low, and even out of ballast. Explain your on-time, out of compliance brake drop when you have to kick a pax off.

There's nothing preventing the FO from getting paperwork. I have done in multiple times if I had to go inside for some reason. Just tell the CA.

Originally Posted by turbinepic (Post 1755892)

I can only comment on what I've seen since I've been with TSA. (orginal 121 new-hire, Aug. 2007) (oh, and btw... NOT ex-Comair :-)
Now that I'm an FO again, I find myself sitting in the cockpit, nearly every single flight, waiting for something to do. I have done everything I can do without paperwork. Funny thing is, only CA can print paperwork at TSA. What a stoopid policy! What a waste of time! I worked for a Delta carrier prior to TSA. Every time we pulled up to a gate the gate agent was there, waiting for us with paperwork in hand. I thought it was SOP, but looking back, it saved soooooo much time! Now I twiddle my fingers in the cockpit while I wait for CA to go find a working printer and come back with paperwork so I can finish my pre-flight duties. Really? On a 24 minute turn we're gonna send the CA on a paperwork printer goose chase? The other thing I've noticed is that, at TSA, the last thing the CA wants to do is close the door. All passengers boarded? Check. Paperwork in hand? Check. "OMG, DON'T CLOSE THE FREAKIN' DOOR!!!!!!" Why not? What are we waiting for? Do we really need to wait to plug everything into the FMS before we close and drop the brake? Really? Why? So many times I've heard, "Oh well, looks like we're gonna be late again." I'm sorry to say it, (because I know I'll get chit) but Delta instilled an environment of, "On-time Airline." No one at TSA cares about on-time performance. PAX boarded with paperwork in hand? Close the freakin' door!!!!! Drop the brake and get this show on the road. The 5% of the time we have to open again and kick someone off is insignificant. But the on-time performance will increase drastically. Frustrated...

Originally Posted by AviHaters (Post 1756045)

You don't want to be super eager closing the door for a few reasons. One is the constant battle with W&B and forward CG. Load up 50 or 50+jumpseat and you could easily need ballast with light bag load. And some stations are low, and even out of ballast. Explain your on-time, out of compliance brake drop when you have to kick a pax off.

There's nothing preventing the FO from getting paperwork. I have done in multiple times if I had to go inside for some reason. Just tell the CA.

Originally Posted by TBucket (Post 1756095)

This pretty much covers it. If you've ever had any dealings with the STL FSDO, you know how much they would LOVE to talk to you about you closing the door and dropping the brake before you knew the airplane was within balance/weight limitations.

Originally Posted by Riverside (Post 1756114)

What nobody is happy that we got $45? Dolla dolla bill y'all.

Originally Posted by DENpilot (Post 1756099)

Please. Point to the reg that says exactly that. If such a regulation existed, most airlines would be out of compliance on almost every flight. United gets their W+B on taxi out.

Originally Posted by Pilottim79 (Post 1756217)

Ever dealt wit STL FSDO?

Originally Posted by RodJohnson (Post 1756233)

Yeah.. Only David clarks! Any other headset will make the airplane self destruct..