Trans States
08-31-2015, 06:43 PM
#9471
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 161
Originally Posted by CBreezy
Said the guy who posted exactly 30 minutes after I posted 30 minutes after you.
Says the guy who replied in 15min. Thanks for proving my point.
Also what do you need a call in for? You've got your cheeks spread and ready to say yes to anything.
08-31-2015, 07:13 PM
#9472
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 129
Going to apply to Trans States in the next month or so, can anyone give me some info on the interview? Thanks
08-31-2015, 07:13 PM
#9473
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: Starboard D
Posts: 112
For those that care to view the inner workings of an attempted regional labor fleecing, here you go. Adapted from comparison XLS.
Now: Attendance bonus based upon 100 day look back from last day at Trans States Airlines max of $800 for no missed days, $500 for 1 missed day, $300 for 2 missed days, and $100 for 3 missed days. TA: Attendance bonus increased to: $1000 for no missed days; $700 for 1 missed day, $500 for 2 missed days, and $300 for 3 missed days.
Now: Insurance premium cap of 38% of COBRA costs for employee only and 50% of COBRA costs for all other plans
TA: Insurance premium cap of 29% of COBRA costs for employee only and 34% of COBRA costs for all other plans
Now: match 401K of 50% of up to 4% of compensation (Max 2%) for years 1-4. match 401K of 50% up to 6% (Max 3%) for 5+ years. match 401K of 50% up to 4% (Max 2%) for 9 mos - 2 years.
TA: match of 401K of 50% up to 6% (Max 3%) for years 3-6. match 401K of 50% up to 8% (Max 4%) for years 7+.
Now: CBA amendable August 1, 2015
TA: 3 year agreement extendable to 5 years with arrival of MRJ
TA: Retention bonus of $2000 per Captain and $1000 for all other non-probationary pilots. Monies to be paid in two payments, the first on date of signing plus 30 days and the second on date of signing plus 6 mos.
Current /// Proposed
-Year 1 FOPay Rate $25.29 /// Rate $35.81
-New Hire Training 60hrs/mo /// 75Hrs/mo
-Pilot pay capped @8/1/15 rates /// Annual COLA 1.5% effective 8/1/16
-Premium pay only to reschedules more than 1 hour prior or more than one additional round trip after a trip /// Premium pay applies to all time rescheduled outside the original trip.
-No pay for clearing Customs /// 18 minute pay credit for customs
-Limited Crew Room language /// Lounges shall be safe, secure, quiet and kept clean. Crew lounge furniture will be clean, comfortable and kept in good repair.
-Per Diem capped at $1.80 /// Per Diem to $1.90 on 08/01/2017, and $2.00 on 08/01/2019 if MRJ extension applies
-Sick leave 2 hrs/mo for first 2 years; 3 hrs/mos years 3-5; and 4 hours/mos after year five /// Sick leave credits of 3 hrs/mos for first 2 years; 3.5 hrs/mos years 3-5 and 4 hours/mos after year five
-Sick leave capped at 300 hours /// sick leave capped at 450 hours
-No use of paid sick leave during year one /// restriction removed
-Airport Reserve 10 hours per day /// 8 hours per day
-12mo seat lock /// 24mo seat lock on 51-78 seat jet.
-$50 copay for all office visits /// $25 copay for all office visits
-Guarantee 1st 10 MRJs in TSH fleet /// guarantee 1st 20 MRJs
-Year 1 FOPay Rate $25.29 /// Rate $35.81
-New Hire Training 60hrs/mo /// 75Hrs/mo
-Pilot pay capped @8/1/15 rates /// Annual COLA 1.5% effective 8/1/16
-Premium pay only to reschedules more than 1 hour prior or more than one additional round trip after a trip /// Premium pay applies to all time rescheduled outside the original trip.
-No pay for clearing Customs /// 18 minute pay credit for customs
-Limited Crew Room language /// Lounges shall be safe, secure, quiet and kept clean. Crew lounge furniture will be clean, comfortable and kept in good repair.
-Per Diem capped at $1.80 /// Per Diem to $1.90 on 08/01/2017, and $2.00 on 08/01/2019 if MRJ extension applies
-Sick leave 2 hrs/mo for first 2 years; 3 hrs/mos years 3-5; and 4 hours/mos after year five /// Sick leave credits of 3 hrs/mos for first 2 years; 3.5 hrs/mos years 3-5 and 4 hours/mos after year five
-Sick leave capped at 300 hours /// sick leave capped at 450 hours
-No use of paid sick leave during year one /// restriction removed
-Airport Reserve 10 hours per day /// 8 hours per day
-12mo seat lock /// 24mo seat lock on 51-78 seat jet.
-$50 copay for all office visits /// $25 copay for all office visits
-Guarantee 1st 10 MRJs in TSH fleet /// guarantee 1st 20 MRJs
Now: Attendance bonus based upon 100 day look back from last day at Trans States Airlines max of $800 for no missed days, $500 for 1 missed day, $300 for 2 missed days, and $100 for 3 missed days. TA: Attendance bonus increased to: $1000 for no missed days; $700 for 1 missed day, $500 for 2 missed days, and $300 for 3 missed days.
Now: Insurance premium cap of 38% of COBRA costs for employee only and 50% of COBRA costs for all other plans
TA: Insurance premium cap of 29% of COBRA costs for employee only and 34% of COBRA costs for all other plans
Now: match 401K of 50% of up to 4% of compensation (Max 2%) for years 1-4. match 401K of 50% up to 6% (Max 3%) for 5+ years. match 401K of 50% up to 4% (Max 2%) for 9 mos - 2 years.
TA: match of 401K of 50% up to 6% (Max 3%) for years 3-6. match 401K of 50% up to 8% (Max 4%) for years 7+.
Now: CBA amendable August 1, 2015
TA: 3 year agreement extendable to 5 years with arrival of MRJ
TA: Retention bonus of $2000 per Captain and $1000 for all other non-probationary pilots. Monies to be paid in two payments, the first on date of signing plus 30 days and the second on date of signing plus 6 mos.
08-31-2015, 08:46 PM
#9474
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
Originally Posted by Case I
For those that care to view the inner workings of an attempted regional labor fleecing, here you go. Adapted from comparison XLS.
Now: Attendance bonus based upon 100 day look back from last day at Trans States Airlines max of $800 for no missed days, $500 for 1 missed day, $300 for 2 missed days, and $100 for 3 missed days.TA: Attendance bonus increased to: $1000 for no missed days; $700 for 1 missed day, $500 for 2 missed days, and $300 for 3 missed days.
Now: Insurance premium cap of 38% of COBRA costs for employee only and 50% of COBRA costs for all other plans
TA: Insurance premium cap of 29% of COBRA costs for employee only and 34% of COBRA costs for all other plans
Now: match 401K of 50% of up to 4% of compensation (Max 2%) for years 1-4. match 401K of 50% up to 6% (Max 3%) for 5+ years. match 401K of 50% up to 4% (Max 2%) for 9 mos - 2 years.
TA: match of 401K of 50% up to 6% (Max 3%) for years 3-6. match 401K of 50% up to 8% (Max 4%) for years 7+.
Now: CBA amendable August 1, 2015
TA: 3 year agreement extendable to 5 years with arrival of MRJ
TA: Retention bonus of $2000 per Captain and $1000 for all other non-probationary pilots. Monies to be paid in two payments, the first on date of signing plus 30 days and the second on date of signing plus 6 mos.
Current /// Proposed
-Year 1 FOPay Rate $25.29/// Rate $35.81
-New Hire Training 60hrs/mo /// 75Hrs/mo
-Pilot pay capped @8/1/15 rates /// Annual COLA 1.5% effective 8/1/16
-Premium pay only to reschedules more than 1 hour prior or more than one additional round trip after a trip /// Premium pay applies to all time rescheduled outside the original trip.
-No pay for clearing Customs /// 18 minute pay credit for customs
-Limited Crew Room language /// Lounges shall be safe, secure, quiet and kept clean. Crew lounge furniture will be clean, comfortable and kept in good repair.
-Per Diem capped at $1.80 /// Per Diem to $1.90 on 08/01/2017, and $2.00 on 08/01/2019 if MRJ extension applies
-Sick leave 2 hrs/mo for first 2 years; 3 hrs/mos years 3-5; and 4 hours/mos after year five ///Sick leave credits of 3 hrs/mos for first 2 years; 3.5 hrs/mos years 3-5 and 4 hours/mos after year five
-Sick leave capped at 300 hours /// sick leave capped at 450 hours
-No use of paid sick leave during year one /// restriction removed
-Airport Reserve 10 hours per day /// 8 hours per day
-12mo seat lock /// 24mo seat lock on 51-78 seat jet.
-$50 copay for all office visits /// $25 copay for all office visits
-Guarantee 1st 10 MRJs in TSH fleet /// guarantee 1st 20 MRJs
-Year 1 FOPay Rate $25.29/// Rate $35.81
-New Hire Training 60hrs/mo /// 75Hrs/mo
-Pilot pay capped @8/1/15 rates /// Annual COLA 1.5% effective 8/1/16
-Premium pay only to reschedules more than 1 hour prior or more than one additional round trip after a trip /// Premium pay applies to all time rescheduled outside the original trip.
-No pay for clearing Customs /// 18 minute pay credit for customs
-Limited Crew Room language /// Lounges shall be safe, secure, quiet and kept clean. Crew lounge furniture will be clean, comfortable and kept in good repair.
-Per Diem capped at $1.80 /// Per Diem to $1.90 on 08/01/2017, and $2.00 on 08/01/2019 if MRJ extension applies
-Sick leave 2 hrs/mo for first 2 years; 3 hrs/mos years 3-5; and 4 hours/mos after year five ///Sick leave credits of 3 hrs/mos for first 2 years; 3.5 hrs/mos years 3-5 and 4 hours/mos after year five
-Sick leave capped at 300 hours /// sick leave capped at 450 hours
-No use of paid sick leave during year one /// restriction removed
-Airport Reserve 10 hours per day /// 8 hours per day
-12mo seat lock /// 24mo seat lock on 51-78 seat jet.
-$50 copay for all office visits /// $25 copay for all office visits
-Guarantee 1st 10 MRJs in TSH fleet /// guarantee 1st 20 MRJs
Now: Attendance bonus based upon 100 day look back from last day at Trans States Airlines max of $800 for no missed days, $500 for 1 missed day, $300 for 2 missed days, and $100 for 3 missed days.TA: Attendance bonus increased to: $1000 for no missed days; $700 for 1 missed day, $500 for 2 missed days, and $300 for 3 missed days.
Now: Insurance premium cap of 38% of COBRA costs for employee only and 50% of COBRA costs for all other plans
TA: Insurance premium cap of 29% of COBRA costs for employee only and 34% of COBRA costs for all other plans
Now: match 401K of 50% of up to 4% of compensation (Max 2%) for years 1-4. match 401K of 50% up to 6% (Max 3%) for 5+ years. match 401K of 50% up to 4% (Max 2%) for 9 mos - 2 years.
TA: match of 401K of 50% up to 6% (Max 3%) for years 3-6. match 401K of 50% up to 8% (Max 4%) for years 7+.
Now: CBA amendable August 1, 2015
TA: 3 year agreement extendable to 5 years with arrival of MRJ
TA: Retention bonus of $2000 per Captain and $1000 for all other non-probationary pilots. Monies to be paid in two payments, the first on date of signing plus 30 days and the second on date of signing plus 6 mos.
Sorry, this wouldn't make your contract industry leading.
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08-31-2015, 11:05 PM
#9475
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 360
Originally Posted by 108dash3
Further more, the only Major airlines who use PBS were awarded it in bankruptcy contracts. That should tell you something. Kiss all your conflict bidding in vacation and training months goodbye. No more 200% open time trips. Flexibility in your life will disappear if you're not in the top 10%.
Originally Posted by vaporlock1215
They need something signed by us asap, which is why they agreed to this extension so quickly.
Everyone in the industry knows TSH doesn't take work on unless they know they will be profitable.
If you think RL and FO weren't planning on throwing us another couple of percent right away or that they can't afford it, i feel bad for you and your shortsightedness.
I don't plan on being here much more than another year or two but I'm still voting no to get as much as I can, and help the industry get closer to what we deserve.
Originally Posted by FlyingKat
Management's goal (and responsibility for that matter) is to get our services as cheap as they can. They aren't interested in 100% ratification. Just 50% plus one....I suspect they already have a backup offer in mind already if this fails.
But this goes to the heart of the matter: they DO have another offer in their back pockets. They have a limit in mind about how far they will go, and the first offer is NEVER it, especially in good economic times.
09-01-2015, 12:28 AM
#9476
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
Position: Window Seat
Posts: 1,430
Bottom line... What could a newly hired CQFO expect to earn their first year?
09-01-2015, 03:48 AM
#9477
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,067
Originally Posted by aviatorhi
Bottom line... What could a newly hired CQFO expect to earn their first year?
TA rates: $48 right seat.
09-01-2015, 03:52 AM
#9478
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 294
Even if this is voted in I don't see it solving the problem getting pilots here. For 3,000 less per year you get flow to American and commuter hotels at pdt.
09-01-2015, 03:55 AM
#9479
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,067
Originally Posted by Planedrive
Even if this is voted in I don't see it solving the problem getting pilots here. For 3,000 less per year you get flow to American and commuter hotels at pdt.
09-01-2015, 05:07 AM
#9480
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: 737
Posts: 142
The other carrot that will get people in the door is training pay increases. For someone who is qualified to be a CQFO, this is huge as many people know of how backed up our training department is.
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