Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1017251)

Those "resources" have proven completely worthless for virtually all the other ALPA carriers I know of. Ask pilots from TWA and Midwest how ALPA's resources worked for them.

ALPA has in fact, become pointless for collective bargaining. They should stick to the role of a safety advocate as they offer nothing for pilots to better themselves (and even attempt to stiff their lower-end workers). With grotesquely bloated salaries, perks and bennies for the upper staff, they're nothing more then an aviation Enron.

Originally Posted by windrider (Post 1017003)

ALPA = Insurance??? You gotta be kiddin me...you are better off with AFLAC.

Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1017251)

Those "resources" have proven completely worthless for virtually all the other ALPA carriers I know of. Ask pilots from TWA and Midwest how ALPA's resources worked for them.

ALPA has in fact, become pointless for collective bargaining. They should stick to the role of a safety advocate as they offer nothing for pilots to better themselves (and even attempt to stiff their lower-end workers). With grotesquely bloated salaries, perks and bennies for the upper staff, they're nothing more then an aviation Enron.

Originally Posted by aewanabe (Post 1017293)

Eaglefly, ALPA got you a seat at AA without an interview. I don't have a problem with that, but it's odd for you to tell us how much we don't need ALPA when you fail to manage what it has done for you. I don't know any of us, myself included, that view ALPA as a panacea. But it's clear that management has absolutely zero intent to treat our PEAs or the PVC with any of our "integrity" value, and we need a voice in our careers.

Originally Posted by golfandfly (Post 1017285)

I don't think so. I don't recall the pay raise... Were you working there when they decided to let the pilots know of the agreement changes and pay rates for the EMB 190? I think it was 2004 or so?

Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod (Post 1017299)

1st, I don't work for JetBlue, I work under the despotic tyranny of ALPA.

2nd, if I'm not mistaken, B6 pilots had the OPTION of changing to a new agreement June 8, 2011 which included a pay bump, or they could stay under the then current agreement. BTW, that pay bump is RETROACTIVE to Jan 1. Retro is not even in the ALPA dictionary.

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1017300)

Really? Then why have ALPA pilot groups received RETRO paychecks before?

Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod (Post 1017303)

Not in recent history, back in the golden age, yes.

Originally Posted by aewanabe (Post 1017302)

That massive pay raise is 1.09 percent. At my current rate, including retro, I will receive about 300 dollars after tax. Also, the retro back to January ignores the fact that this raise was supposed to be effective in 2010.