They cannot pull funding. The finding for each MEC and each LEC is set by one formula that is used for all of them.

Anyway, call the union bananas for all I care. It will still be made up of the same people who voted in those who are in office now.

 

Not even close to being correct.

 

You're not going to. Not with 1.95 of a regional pilots salary. Even if you got every US regional. Point still remains regardless of Union Affiliate your individual property is only as strong as those whom you elected to represent you. If you don't like that vote better or offer your time to volunteer.

 

As someone who worked for rah for almost a decade let me tell you, you have no idea what you are talking about. You have no idea what we went thru and what lack of support ibt offered. They are a truckers union that's all!!!

 

During the mid and late 1970's, the Air Line Pilots Association thought that concept would be a good one. They formed the Union of Professional Airmen (UPA), which was for the "commuters", as they were called then (regional carriers). They were a separate organization with the help of ALPA national for legal assistance, contract negotiations, advice, etc.

The first real "test" was a strike at Rio Airways (TX) which proved to be very costly in that Rio held off the strike efforts for over a year and finally UPA capitulated. Although very expensive, the company "won" and thereafter the financials simply didn't make sense to continue as a separate entity. The history of UPA after that is very short.

Today, it makes even less sense. Look at what the majors pour into the coffers of the regional carriers and you'll answer your own question.

G'Luck Mates

 

Yes, but please stop when you get to Pay, Schedule, and Benefits. Oh, ALPA and IBT don't deal with those? I'll take a pass...thanks!

 

A truckers union...sounds like you have all the answers and none of the facts. Like the Division is run by a pilot, the negotiators are pilots and the Assistant Director was an ALPA contract administrator.

Why don't you tell us all why you let CM refuse any assistance, preferring to go with a lawyer outside the IBT who bills you up the wazoo and delivers squat? Or why you all refused any assistance from the Economics folks?

Problem for you is that there are some of us who know EXACTLY what you were offered...and refused. You had the opportunity to go with Local 1224 and have even MORE support after 747 was shut down, but you turned it down and demanded your own Local. Don't blame others for your failings.

 

And your statement is based on???

 

Wow. That does me a lot of good when IBT negotiates some of the worst contracts in the industry. GoJet & RAH to name a few. Go IBT 357. Only 7 years past the amendable date. GoJet has one of the worst contracts in the industry. The Kalitta contract is terrible. Way to go!

 

Facts. My statement is based on facts. How about yours? Each ALPA airline negotiates their own contract. That's why each airline elects it's own negotiating committee. ALPA National doesn't negotiate contracts for anyone.