Gander50

My point is History tends to repeat itself. What can be done to prevent it from happening again?

oldmako

Oh yeah. That. Thanks tkhayes. Funny how facts get such little traction around here.

Hrkdrivr

You know this how? That's a pretty broad statement about a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met.

Gander50

That's the point of the statement... What is there to stop them??? I am asking honestly... I do not know the answer.

Grumble

The most awful work environment one can imagine, for how ever long they can stand it.

Hrkdrivr

I don't know which company it was, but way back when they had a strike, the people in class and/or waiting for class were contacted by union reps and "educated" about their choice to refuse training or to continue. Remember, they had no union protection at that point. Most chose to stop/not start training. A few continued. Those that didn't train were terminated and on the street for years, but I guess the union helped them get their jobs back later, I think even seniority and back pay?

I'm sure someone will chime in with details.

Point is, somebody will need to tell them what's what and then they'll have to make their own choices.

Gander50

Well that makes a lot more sense. I was just simply asking what deterrent was in place to stop it from happening again.

hindsight2020

My thoughts exactly. No dog in the fight, but every time I read these viscerally agitated fighting words about the concept of scabs, I keep getting mental images of the regional airline industry as a whole. Why that's considered an invalid correlation, is beyond illogical to me.

The Hunger Games that is our labor market is not confined to just airline labor dynamics. Furthermore, the legitimacy of unions within the umbrella of an RLA framework is heel-clicking at best. Why then do military retirees, independently wealthy or spousal-subsidized regional hobby pilots not considered scabs? The net effect is the same. Hell, many would do it part-time if they could. I'm not advocating anybody cross a picket line, I'm just saying I would like to see a rational even-tempered argument for why these things are different. Otherwise it reeks of people embittered about describing the water that is the Hunger Games, which defines us as a labor pool.

As to the guy crossing a picket line to keep his kid's meds affordable, yeah that's a policy problem we created as a Country. I wouldn't crucify the guy for a non-choice that we ALL created by tolerating it politically (non-universal health care and employer-tied subsidy) because we're 'Muricans and hypocrites that believe that my entitlements are earned rights but your entitlements are welfare. Healthcare is the weakest argument with which I could attempt to crucify a scab.

JoePatroni

This was Panarello's BS excuse, there were others like him in similar or worse situations that made it work without scabbing, ask any of those guys what they think about Panarello- it's eye opening. Once a scumbag, always a scumbag.

El10

You can not justify what they did in any way. Every guy that walked the line had the same challenges putting food on the table and getting the medication for their kids. No strike is called for with 24 hour notice. Each person that planed for the fight to improve the industry for you and I new what lied ahead. To say that the current regional industry is in the same ball park is not accepting reality. The jets and props they fall are all agreed to by every airline and in all cases voted for by the pilots. To say that its to hard to do what guys in the past did is crap. If you think its worth a fight then you plan for it and when able stick to your gut.