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pilotgolfer 03-02-2017 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by RJCruzer007 (Post 2311894)
I am seriously considering updating my resume and aim for UAL. I never thought about this until now. My biggest fear is if Blue gets sold. Additionally we are in contract negotiations. I am looking toward a more secure future. The irony is I make great money, I have a great schedule, great group of pilots to work for. But the fear of being sold is the great unknown.

It's a tough call for me.

You are JetBlew's wet dream...they have you believing you are making "great money". You probably thought those Band of Blue guys had your best interest in mind. Did you start at Mesa or Gulfstream? Do you look forward to selling back your PTO each year?

Sorry for being so blunt.

oldmako 03-02-2017 08:56 AM

I'm curious, what is the 12 year pay rate for the airbus at JB, and how much do they contribute (or match) to your 401K?

Half wing 03-02-2017 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2312257)
I'm curious, what is the 12 year pay rate for the airbus at JB, and how much do they contribute (or match) to your 401K?

Looks like $219/hr. 401k contribution is 8%, you have to match 5%.

capt707 03-02-2017 09:25 AM

I'm at Blue as well and looking to get out, if I only knew how to get a call from UA!?

It's sad how many folks at JB don't know how far away we are in terms of pay, work rules and QOL from UA and other carriers. They think selling back PTO is awesome!

oldmako 03-02-2017 09:37 AM

So a 12 year FO at UA makes more than a Captain at JB, and also gets twice the kicker into his retirement plan? Is that about right?

Just trying to look at this from an apples to kumquats perspective.

capt707 03-02-2017 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2312300)
So a 12 year FO at UA makes more than a Captain at JB, and also gets twice the kicker into his retirement plan? Is that about right?

Just trying to look at this from an apples to kumquats perspective.

Yup! And Delta had a 2 yr guy just get awarded upgrade on B717, he will make more on 2nd yr CA pay flying a 717 than our topped out guys flying an A320 AND A321. :rolleyes:

Grumpyaviator 03-02-2017 10:43 AM

If you're on reserve, is open time paid on top of guarantee?

Tank21 03-02-2017 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator (Post 2312350)
If you're on reserve, is open time paid on top of guarantee?

Only if you break 73 hours in the month.

Half wing 03-02-2017 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by Tank21 (Post 2312357)
Only if you break 73 hours in the month.

Or if you pick up on your days off.

Grumpyaviator 03-02-2017 11:37 AM

Thanks, days off is what I was thinking of.


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