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krudawg 04-10-2017 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Tank21 (Post 2340215)
I've never aggressively picked up a SC, only assigned by scheduling.

Well, you may not know this but if a particularly onerous trip comes open, I know that there is a large population of reserve pilots who will pick up a SC to avoid the onerous trip.

Otters 04-11-2017 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by Tank21 (Post 2340102)
After 2 unused SC's, you get 1 hour of add pay per SC with no maximum that I know of.

I was scheduled for 8 SC's one month and not used on any of them. I subsequently received 6 hours of add pay because of it.

And be careful. When you aggressively pick up short calls, no matter how many, your pay after 5 short calls can be affected. You may work SC or FS for free.

3-C-1-b-(1)-(b)
When a reserve has(5) five unused Short Call and/or Field Standby assignments in a Bid period that were ASSIGNED to him((that is, not picked up), his MPG shall increase by 1(one) hour for each subsequent unused Short Call or FS assignment that is also assigned to him.

So in the first 5 SC or FS assignments you get paid 3 hours of pay. First two free then 1 hour per the next three. In these you may aggressively pick up and be paid, but buyer beware, after five, every one you aggressively picked up in the first five or later counts against you receiving additional money.

If you really want to maximize money in hopes of greater than 5 SC's,
Don't aggressively pick up. Food for thought.

APC225 04-11-2017 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by Otters (Post 2340707)
And be careful. When you aggressively pick up short calls, no matter how many, your pay after 5 short calls can be affected. You may work SC or FS for free.

3-C-1-b-(1)-(b)
When a reserve has(5) five unused Short Call and/or Field Standby assignments in a Bid period that were ASSIGNED to him((that is, not picked up), his MPG shall increase by 1(one) hour for each subsequent unused Short Call or FS assignment that is also assigned to him.

So in the first 5 SC or FS assignments you get paid 3 hours of pay. First two free then 1 hour per the next three. In these you may aggressively pick up and be paid, but buyer beware, after five, every one you aggressively picked up in the first five or later counts against you receiving additional money.

If you really want to maximize money in hopes of greater than 5 SC's,
Don't aggressively pick up. Food for thought.

Accurate but it's not being applied right now because IT hasn't yet added the ability to automatically distinguish between an assigned SC and a picked up SC, and they aren't tracking it manually.

APC225 04-11-2017 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by krudawg (Post 2340369)
Well, you may not know this but if a particularly onerous trip comes open, I know that there is a large population of reserve pilots who will pick up a SC to avoid the onerous trip.

And this: I bypassed a SC pickup and then got assigned a 0600 FSB awhile ago. Done with that. I now have a standing Smart Pickup request in Crew Companion to automatically pickup any SC 0600 and later.

LeeFXDWG 04-11-2017 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Tank21 (Post 2340102)
After 2 unused SC's, you get 1 hour of add pay per SC with no maximum that I know of.

I was scheduled for 8 SC's one month and not used on any of them. I subsequently received 6 hours of add pay because of it.


No, NOT ADD PAY!

MPG credit.

Most times transparent but not always.

Sorry to point out the fine print.

Lee

Probe 04-11-2017 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG (Post 2341096)
No, NOT ADD PAY!

MPG credit.

Most times transparent but not always.

Sorry to point out the fine print.

Lee

I wish someone would point out how our pay system works. I have no clue. I believe there are a lot of pilots like me.

jsled 04-23-2017 04:01 PM

after 2 lines....i'll be heading back to RSV. JEEZ. I'm exhausted. You lineholder guys work to freaking much... and some of you commute on top of that??!! :eek: More power to ya. I'll just hang around and pick up SC's on our shotty RSV system. The weather is getting nice.

buscappy 04-23-2017 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 2349386)
after 2 lines....i'll be heading back to RSV. JEEZ. I'm exhausted. You lineholder guys work to freaking much... and some of you commute on top of that??!! :eek: More power to ya. I'll just hang around and pick up SC's on our shotty RSV system. The weather is getting nice.


:)))))


too funny

MasterOfPuppets 04-23-2017 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 2349386)
after 2 lines....i'll be heading back to RSV. JEEZ. I'm exhausted. You lineholder guys work to freaking much... and some of you commute on top of that??!! :eek: More power to ya. I'll just hang around and pick up SC's on our shotty RSV system. The weather is getting nice.

I flew one 3 day trip and sat SC 4 times last month. The rest of the month a spent at home with my family sleeping in my own bed.

And I still think the reserve rules need to be fixed........

Firsttimeflyer 04-24-2017 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 2349508)
I flew one 3 day trip and sat SC 4 times last month. The rest of the month a spent at home with my family sleeping in my own bed.

And I still think the reserve rules need to be fixed........

Exactly, that should have been worth an extra 8 hours for those 4 short calls. FSB should be 5 hours added to MPG for every single one.

buscappy 04-24-2017 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer (Post 2349892)
Exactly, that should have been worth an extra 8 hours for those 4 short calls. FSB should be 5 hours added to MPG for every single one.

couldn't we just have reserve pay 120 hrs and let scheduling do as they want?

pilotgolfer 04-24-2017 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by buscappy (Post 2350004)
couldn't we just have reserve pay 120 hrs and let scheduling do as they want?

Only if they can't move my days off...id be okay with your idea.

Firsttimeflyer 04-24-2017 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by buscappy (Post 2350004)
couldn't we just have reserve pay 120 hrs and let scheduling do as they want?

Only if we get 15/16 days off a month. And no more RDOs. They are all HDO. Then that'll do just fine.

Otters 05-05-2017 10:30 AM

I've been watching CCS way more than I ever care to the last 72 hours to really try and observe the evolution or de-evolution of a trip and the manning of reserves for open trips.

The crew desk is going way out of their way to ensure trips are covered using system wide reserves. I've seen more trips broken up into the strangest of ways to cover the assignments. All the while SC assignments get posted then taken away in a moments notice.

I believe the ultimate end is no SRM or VDO all the while trying to maximize each reserve(no surprise). I'll admit, someone is really working at it and succeeding. Too my surprise trips that seem destined for VDO are miraculously salvaged using reserves in a myriad of ways. Unfortunately the system is not very transparent to solve some of these mysteries.

My equipment is narrow body and I would say 70% of my flying in last 3 months is in support of other domiciles.

And no I'm not complaining, just an observation.

Thanks.


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