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AMERICAN AIRLINE PILOTS STRIKE BUT CLINTON ORDERS THEM BACK - The New York Times

DOT approves contested Norwegian Air flights


There are many others, but I know you already know that. NAI being the most egregious slap in the face in a generation.

If you're a public sector union employee, then I would agree with you.

 

From the article: "Regardless of our appreciation of the public policy arguments raised by opponents, we have been advised that the law and our bilateral obligations leave us no avenue to reject this application.”

It goes back much farther than the Obama administration.

 

The outcome of American was exactly what labor wanted but nice try. We have already covered how Obama did all he could to delay NAI without jeopardizing all our Atlantic flying.

Now back to the issue about the one party pushing RTW. Until republican pilots can come to grips with the fact that they are the party trying to weaken and destroy the very union they are a member of, the rest if us will feel they are a threat.

 

Wrong. More scare tactics. Nothing we can do about it anyway. The #1 thing we have been fighting in the last administration was NAI and ME3 and Obama approved NAI right as he was leaving office, and gave Emirates the DC-Dubai route. If Democrats were our friends, why didn't they do anything when they were in power? Let's see what Trump does. At least he was willing to meet with the airline CEOs unlike the last guy.

 

Back to 17-07V, comgrats to folks who are going to get to the coast of their choice. Wonder if the crew planning folks anticipated this?

Probably not.

 

Clearly, you don't know "the rest of the story" regarding Clinton and the AA pilots. Show me legislation proposed by Dems to eliminate unions. And, the treaty that Bush the elder signed allowing NAI to begin ops, and the amount of huge corporate money spent by FAR deeper pockets than ALPA's who wanted the whole bag of feces to proceed. Anyone who thought that we actually stood a chance against Boeing (along with other well heeled interests) is in jeopardy of giving a false positive on their next drug test.

 

I can assure you from what I witnessed in my corporate flying career that the lack of ethics, integrity and character of these corporate executives are mind boggling. They are brazen, egotistical and have no conscience. No need to look any further than the previous CEO as a confirmation that true leadership is severely lacking in our country.


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President Rump was already asked to reverse the decision on NAI. He said no. You will get no help from him.

 

Others have already pointed out your lack of knowledge of the history and backstories of the events you claim are examples of Democratic indifference towards airlines and unions.

Regarding DC-Dubai, the awarding of the government flying to JetBlue/Emirates followed the law/regulations. The law/regulations that the majors had previously lobbied to have adjusted to include their codeshare/alliance partners. It was a competitive bid and Jetblue was selected. It had a cheaper airfare and its overall application was scored higher then UAL's. Don't you want your government to spend your tax dollars wisely?

Here is the Protest denial:

U.S. GAO - United Airlines, Inc.

How come no one complains that UAL won the award for ATL-FRA? UAL certainly doesn't fly that route with its own metal, it is flown on Lufthansa.

https://cpsearch.fas.gsa.gov/cpsearc...r=Search+FY+17

And while losing the GSA award on that route hurt the bottom line of UAL, I'm not convinced it wouldn't have dropped it anyways. From a war time, monopoly route that made $$$ to a route where the war ended and thus government travel was down and now you also had three other carriers flying that market (the ME3).

 

Ask a JetBlue ALPA member if they support codeshare with Emirates .. they'll either be truthful and say yes, or lie and say no. They WANT the ME codeshares since they lack the international feed. Therein lies the problem with lobbying this issue. Ask Boeing Union members if they want NAI .. more 787's, more jobs, no brainer. Ask Delta if they want ATC modernization for better slot management in the Northeast. They don't care about that so much .. it'd help United more than them and they don't want that.

This is the problem with pseudo-deregulation. Everyone still has to rely on their man in Washington to get an advantage. That's great until someone else presents a better bargain to the man in Washington. What can you do at that point, complain that your competitors' payoffs were larger than yours?