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Old 04-14-2017 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck D
FWIW I've been in too many airports last few days hearing many from the non-hefty bag crowd (probably not a useful descriptor) business class types be disappointed w/ UAL initial response, and they probably weren't the sort to entertain thoughts of civil disobedience either.
They've always been free to move to another carrier. But they don't care what airline they fly on - just as long as it's the cheapest by $2 if they're paying for the ticket. If it's OPM, they'll just take the airline that they're told to by their company. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qben5MLmtXo
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Old 04-14-2017 | 05:20 PM
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Or the one they schedule themselves one for the points/miles

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Old 04-14-2017 | 08:38 PM
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I may be wearing a tin foil hat here, but there seems to be a definite push to make this incident worse than a crash.

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Pass the roll of tinfoil please.. This whole episode comes on the heels of the "leggings" outrage on Twitter when two pax traveling on space A employee passes were told that they weren't following the stated dress code. It's strange how the mob has been turned against United.. as if someone from another airline was somehow seeding the crowd with angry villagers and handing out pitchforks. Gonna need a whole roll of tinfoil for this hat.
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Old 04-16-2017 | 09:38 PM
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Another 'there but for the grace of God goes my company' fiasco.

We all know that on any given day the Facebook crowd could crucify any given airline for something. This time it's United. You'll be pithed and dissected for a week or two until the corporate organism moves on to some other story. It's what people and the press do.

I'm not anti press. They serve a valuable function. But how many times has each of us read some airline story and not found twelve different things wrong with it, and then blithely gone on to swallow every detail of some other story about something we're not experts about? Happens all the time, and you should be aware of it. Reporters are fallible people, made more fallible because of the time constraints their craft has to work with.

I'm not saying there wasn't a wrong here that should be made right. Again: not anti press. But in the digital era nobody takes time out to separate fact from fantasy. Grains of salt are in short supply.
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Old 04-17-2017 | 04:48 AM
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Fake News wants to portray United as the evil corporation... and that they were "punished" in the stock market by their actions with the good Dr. Take a look at the 5D stock price... went from 72 to 69... big whoop. The weekly price for UAL stock fluctuates 8 bucks on average... I would argue that the downturn of this stock was not related... just makes fake news stories.
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Old 04-17-2017 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ugleeual
Fake News wants to portray United as the evil corporation... and that they were "punished" in the stock market by their actions with the good Dr. Take a look at the 5D stock price... went from 72 to 69... big whoop. The weekly price for UAL stock fluctuates 8 bucks on average... I would argue that the downturn of this stock was not related... just makes fake news stories.
Yep....

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Old 04-17-2017 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
The stock moved down a total of 4% this week. It's fluctuated more than that without any incidents.



The news cycle's over on this subject. There will be a few tidbits but this will be forgotten faster than the topic of this Sunday's Easter sermon.



Delta's opened a Pandora's Box on the subject, throwing raw meat to obstinate customers: Delta OKs offers of up to $9,950 to flyers who give up seats



The loads are too high. Time to raise fares and get the hefty bag for a suitcase crowd back to travelling on Greyhound.


It appears that this isn't a new thing that Delta does.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...s-weekend/amp/

In hindsight, UAL should've offered at least $1350.
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Old 04-17-2017 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevjets
It appears that this isn't a new thing that Delta does.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...s-weekend/amp/

In hindsight, UAL should've offered at least $1350.
they lost money on that flight... a domestic leg, dependent on the city pair, might make only a $1000 total after paying all the expenses for operating the flight. We are moving down a bad path...
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Old 04-17-2017 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by TQ Nola
Another 'there but for the grace of God goes my company' fiasco.

We all know that on any given day the Facebook crowd could crucify any given airline for something. This time it's United. You'll be pithed and dissected for a week or two until the corporate organism moves on to some other story. It's what people and the press do.

I'm not anti press. They serve a valuable function. But how many times has each of us read some airline story and not found twelve different things wrong with it, and then blithely gone on to swallow every detail of some other story about something we're not experts about? Happens all the time, and you should be aware of it. Reporters are fallible people, made more fallible because of the time constraints their craft has to work with.

I'm not saying there wasn't a wrong here that should be made right. Again: not anti press. But in the digital era nobody takes time out to separate fact from fantasy. Grains of salt are in short supply.
Outstanding post. CNBC's hanging onto this story today because earnings come out after today's market close.

SNL got in a couple of United jokes, but they're getting pretty stale. And Colin Jost's joke was spot on. Something like, "I'll never fly United again. (dramatic pause) Unless they're the lowest fare."


We're overselling flights because we're not charging enough in fares. Raise fares and dump basic economy fares. Basic economy is a stupid idea when the flights are already full. If there's anything we should be mad at management about, it's that we're not charging enough for tickets and leaving a ton of money on the table.

Yesterday, I was on 3 United flights.
Leg 1: Had to jumpseat because the flight was full.
Leg 2: 97% full 777 with 104 FFs on the upgrade list to F. That's 30% of coach that were UA silver or better.
Leg 3: DH on full flight. Yes, my DH was booked more than 24 hrs in advance.


Summer's not even here yet and our flights are packed; there are more people flying than ever. Time to raise our prices. Sell less tickets in the lowest fare buckets and move them to the top fare buckets. This is going to be a long, brutal summer in the airline business with every aircraft full.


Stop the hysteria. There's very little difference between United and American or Delta. We're not better than them and we're not worse than them. On any given flight, one would experience near identical treatment no matter which of the 3 carriers they fly.

As far as the media bias against United, we're just the flavor of the week. They're already getting back to 24 hour Trump coverage.
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Old 04-17-2017 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ugleeual
Fake News wants to portray United as the evil corporation... and that they were "punished" in the stock market by their actions with the good Dr. Take a look at the 5D stock price... went from 72 to 69... big whoop. The weekly price for UAL stock fluctuates 8 bucks on average... I would argue that the downturn of this stock was not related... just makes fake news stories.
do you trade UAL much?
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