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rp2pilot 06-10-2017 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 2377430)
Will the L-UAL guys have grandfather rights or super seniority...or is that something only the Cal guys think they are entitled to? ������

There used to be wording in that contract that granted grandfather rights IF the base reopened within a certain time frame. I can't find that in section 8; anyone know the answer?

Andy 06-10-2017 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by rp2pilot (Post 2377439)
There used to be wording in that contract that granted grandfather rights IF the base reopened within a certain time frame. I can't find that in section 8; anyone know the answer?

Not there anymore. See MOU 14.

No Nonsense 06-10-2017 07:11 PM

8-C-6 (so called Grandfather Rights)
 
8-C-6 When a vacancy or vacancies occur in a Category from which a Pilot(s) has been displaced under the provisions of Section 8-E, the displaced Pilot(s) shall, for a period of 120 days beyond the effective date of his displacement, be offered in order of seniority the vacancy prior to awarding that position under the provisions of Section 8-C-5. This 120 day period is measured from the effective date of the displacement to the date on which the vacancy bulletin is published.

Knotcher 06-10-2017 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 2377430)
Will the L-UAL guys have grandfather rights or super seniority...or is that something only the Cal guys think they are entitled to? ������

Oh no...the lual guys get it too...just ask the "400" weirdos

Andy 06-10-2017 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by No Nonsense (Post 2377507)
8-C-6 When a vacancy or vacancies occur in a Category from which a Pilot(s) has been displaced under the provisions of Section 8-E, the displaced Pilot(s) shall, for a period of 120 days beyond the effective date of his displacement, be offered in order of seniority the vacancy prior to awarding that position under the provisions of Section 8-C-5. This 120 day period is measured from the effective date of the displacement to the date on which the vacancy bulletin is published.

I missed that. Was thinking about the 24 mos, as per MOU 14.

Regularguy 06-10-2017 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by 130drvr (Post 2377375)
With the company announcement of a DEN 756 base reopening, I would like to hear what the flying was like when the base existed before. I am probably a ways from holding it, really just curious. I've flown with guys that held it and they spoke of flying 3 Hawaii trips per month. Probably transcons as well I'm guessing.

Yep the Hawaii trips were normal three days and paid 14 hours and some change. I personally flew them three times a month and filled in with one day turns. Many here have little clue that most of us lUAL pilots did not fly more than 78 hours a month. A big time month was 83 hours unlike today's line holders who regularly manage 90+ hours.

There was a short time when the 767 would fly a Hawaii W over five days. DEN HNL SFO HNL DEN. Two nights in HNL and one in SFO, but that was a very rare trip and I believe only one summer.

rp2pilot 06-10-2017 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by Regularguy (Post 2377540)
. Many here have little clue that most of us lUAL pilots did not fly more than 78 hours a month. A big time month was 83 hours unlike today's line holders who regularly manage 90+ hours.

If I remember correctly, wasn't line pay value capped at 85 hours with everything above that going into a bank to be payed out in the following months?

JoePatroni 06-11-2017 02:55 AM


Originally Posted by rp2pilot (Post 2377541)
If I remember correctly, wasn't line pay value capped at 85 hours with everything above that going into a bank to be payed out in the following months?

Continental had that. You could bank up to twenty five hours and draw from it in a light month or you could get it all paid out in a vacation month.

horrido27 06-11-2017 07:36 AM

LGA-DEN..
Flown out of EWR base (75-3). 2 day, pays a little over 10hrs + crosstown pay.
About 8ish flt hours.

Another type of trip that can be flown out of the DEN 765 base.
Saves 60 hotel rooms, 60 xtown pays, 30 limos.

There's probably a bunch of turns they can do, along with 3 and 4 day trips that will pay M5D but not invoke Trig Rig.

Opening any BES is a good thing. Means the company is trying to utilize the fleet/manpower efficiently.
Up to us to make sure we have contractual protections to make it beneficial to us..
Either a higer MinPayPer Day, better Trip Rigs or better Profit Sharing.

Wonder how big the base will be?
Motch

davessn763 06-11-2017 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 2377672)
LGA-DEN..
Flown out of EWR base (75-3). 2 day, pays a little over 10hrs + crosstown pay.
About 8ish flt hours.

Another type of trip that can be flown out of the DEN 765 base.
Saves 60 hotel rooms, 60 xtown pays, 30 limos.

There's probably a bunch of turns they can do, along with 3 and 4 day trips that will pay M5D but not invoke Trig Rig.

Opening any BES is a good thing. Means the company is trying to utilize the fleet/manpower efficiently.
Up to us to make sure we have contractual protections to make it beneficial to us..
Either a higer MinPayPer Day, better Trip Rigs or better Profit Sharing.

Wonder how big the base will be?
Motch

What base is going to shrink or close? The small bases are around 100 crews.


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