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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 2436816)
Behind in ACFT acquisition? Where have you been man? we have the first of 161 737MAX's showing up next year, we just took delivery of 14 777-300s and ordered 4 more due next year, the first of our 787-10s start showing up next year and we have 4 more 787-9s due at the end of this year.
DL has 858 jets and will be parking 176 MD80s by 2020 that takes them down to 682 aircraft in the next 2 years plus the rest of their 747s by the end of this year. They will be taking a few older 321s, the Cseries and a handful of 350s but other than that they don't have any aircraft on order......No MAXs, No NEOS, No 777. At best DL breaks even. AA has 947 aircraft. they are parking most of their 767-300s most of their 757s and the rest of their MD80s over the next couple years. thats close to 100 aircraft. They start taking the first of their MAXs this year at best they will break even. UA has 749 aircraft with over 180 on order over the next couple years and we are not parking anything now that the 747 is gone. So we should have 850-900 jets, basically even with DL within the next few years. If Kirby was brought in to curb capital spending it looks like he failed at that too since he upped the A350 order, upped the MAX order and bought 4 more 777-300s....:rolleyes: I used to share your enthusiasm, but it has been one disappointment after another with this guy. 1200 new hires, no wait, 500 new hires, no wait.. 0 new hires... Hopefully I'm wrong on this, and your enthusiasm is warranted. |
Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 2436776)
SW has hired fewer pilots than us over the same period of time.
I belive at OBAP it was published that SW was just shy of 900 this year.
Originally Posted by Rsv4lyfe
(Post 2436795)
AA hiring plenty. UPS. JBU... on and on.
Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 2436816)
we have the first of 161 737MAX's showing up next year, we just took delivery of 14 777-300s and ordered 4 more due next year, the first of our 787-10s start showing up.....
......we are not parking anything now that the 747 is gone. So we should have 850-900 jets, basically even with DL within the next few years. DAL may taper off their hiring, who knows? OR, they were just smarter at getting ahead of the curve than Willis Tower was.....
Originally Posted by RSRVWINDSURFR
(Post 2436857)
I used to share your enthusiasm, but it has been one disappointment after another with this guy. 1200 new hires, no wait, 500 new hires, no wait.. 0 new hires...
Hopefully I'm wrong on this, and your enthusiasm is warranted. |
Originally Posted by John Carr
(Post 2436867)
DAL may taper off their hiring, who knows? OR, they were just smarter at getting ahead of the curve than Willis Tower was..... |
Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 2436868)
Can’t argue with that. We are WAY behind the curve.
1) TK is a construction mess 2) We quite rapidly displaced the most senior fleet with the whale 3) Failed to train bumps to allow effective redeployment (cough cough 34 TDY's into 777 SFO next month) 4) Completely bungled closing the Chief Scabliner base Incompetence has it's price unfortunately. Training resources are tapped. |
Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 2436868)
Can’t argue with that. We are WAY behind the curve.
1) TK is a construction mess 2) We quite rapidly displaced the most senior fleet with the whale 3) Failed to train bumps to allow effective redeployment (34 TDY's into 777 SFO next month :rolleyes:) 4) Completely bungled closing the Chief Scabliner base Incompetence has it's price unfortunately. Training resources are tapped. |
Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 2436868)
Can’t argue with that. We are WAY behind the curve.
Such a damn fine post by intrepid the interwebz put it up TWICE!!!! |
Originally Posted by intrepidcv11
(Post 2436876)
Yep hiring sucks, but there are other factors at play beyond Kirby is out to screw everything up.
1) TK is a construction mess 2) We quite rapidly displaced the most senior fleet with the whale 3) Failed to train bumps to allow effective redeployment (34 TDY's into 777 SFO next month :rolleyes:) 4) Completely bungled closing the Chief Scabliner base Incompetence has it's price unfortunately. Training resources are tapped. And I’ll post it again because he is completely correct. |
Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 2436816)
Behind in ACFT acquisition? Where have you been man? we have the first of 161 737MAX's showing up next year, we just took delivery of 14 777-300s and ordered 4 more due next year, the first of our 787-10s start showing up next year and we have 4 more 787-9s due at the end of this year.
DL has 858 jets and will be parking 176 MD80s by 2020 that takes them down to 682 aircraft in the next 2 years plus the rest of their 747s by the end of this year. They will be taking a few older 321s, the Cseries and a handful of 350s but other than that they don't have any aircraft on order......No MAXs, No NEOS, No 777. At best DL breaks even. AA has 947 aircraft. they are parking most of their 767-300s most of their 757s and the rest of their MD80s over the next couple years. thats close to 100 aircraft. They start taking the first of their MAXs this year at best they will break even. UA has 749 aircraft with over 180 on order over the next couple years and we are not parking anything now that the 747 is gone. So we should have 850-900 jets, basically even with DL within the next few years. If Kirby was brought in to curb capital spending it looks like he failed at that too since he upped the A350 order, upped the MAX order and bought 4 more 777-300s....:rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by N6279P
(Post 2436886)
Totally wrong about Delta. They are taking delivery of 45 A321's, 100ish 737-900's and 75 C100's. If anything, they will be ahead when the 88 fleet is gone.
So basic math says 141 deliveries. Still short of a 1-1 MD80/90 retirement and, as I said basically flat growth. The only way DL grows, as of what we know today, is if they keep the MD-90 into the 2020's. So how am I totally wrong? If you have facts put them out there. I basically just googled DL aircraft orders and used Airfleets as a source. |
Originally Posted by N6279P
(Post 2436886)
Totally wrong about Delta.
:D |
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