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Old 08-15-2017 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
It was St Louis. And Doris...the nicest lady in the world, told him not to do what he was trying to do and the consequences if he did it.
Wow, if he ****ed off Doris he deserve what you got. She was like a den mother to us. That was about a $5mil plane ticket. Did they let him resign for fire him?
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Old 08-15-2017 | 06:27 PM
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Wow, if he ****ed off Doris he deserve what you got. She was like a den mother to us. That was about a $5mil plane ticket. Did they let him resign for fire him?
They fired him. That's what I was told when I came through re-doc.
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Old 08-15-2017 | 06:48 PM
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While we're on this application topic, does anyone know of a good university GPA range that Delta prefers? Maybe a cutoff? Thanks.
If your university gave you the degree then you did well enough. Don't worry about what you can't change.
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Old 08-15-2017 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by That Guy 74
I work for a large 135 operator on a closed charter, membership-based contract.

I have to wonder if anyone with a purely military/airline background understands what is involved in working for some of the upper tier 135 gigs (NOT the 134.95 operators), ESPECIALLY if you are a standards/instructor, line check airman, supervisor, etc.

I have to think not...
I know what it's like to work for the bottom of the barrel-scum sucking, blood thirty, cut throat, the rules don't exist kind of 135 operators. If you have flown crappy equipment in crappy weather for a crappy 135 operator then the airlines will be a piece of cake.
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Old 08-15-2017 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Interesting... seeing as how the KC-135/C-130 guys in my new hire class struggled the most, the regional guys have the highest rate of being let go from training/probation and the fighter guys seem to work the hardest (with the heavy guys).

Interesting on top of interesting.

What are the reasons folks aren't making it through training or being let go/probation busts? This should be a thread all unto itself......

Love the mission mindset of the fighter guys and the want-to to learn.
Love the situational awareness and instrument skills of regional guys.
Love the team work skills of the heavy guys.
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Old 08-15-2017 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Wow, if he ****ed off Doris he deserve what you got. She was like a den mother to us. That was about a $5mil plane ticket. Did they let him resign for fire him?
No, Doris told him to keep his hands off the thermostat.
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Old 08-15-2017 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
No, Doris told him to keep his hands off the thermostat.
OK seriously what is this thing about the thermostat. Is that part a joke?

AND...all that for St. Louis? Seriously? I hope she was hot.
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Old 08-16-2017 | 10:42 AM
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Mainly attitude problems. Can't find a way to get along with the Capt. Or telling him he's not doing it right....talking to the flight office, a lot....highlighting yourself with management. Their patience with attitude is getting short. Even with pro standards intervention. I hate to stereotype, but millennial attitudes are not helping.

Keep a low profile.
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Old 08-16-2017 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
....talking to the flight office....
I encourage any probationary pilot who thinks the key first step is to head into flight office to do so.

Why waste the time of a mentor or pro standards when the flight office is, like, right there?

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Old 08-16-2017 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
I encourage any probationary pilot who thinks the key first step is to head into flight office to do so.

Why waste the time of a mentor or pro standards when the flight office is, like, right there?

Yeah, I know, probably not the best idea. But just to make sure, and I got it, sarcasm is my main personality trait, but....

This is serious business and I do want to make it clear to any new hires that may read this, please, please, do not make your first call to the flight office, for almost anything. Think ALPA first. Any problems you may have, question, issues, ALPA and the mentoring program should be in your first thoughts.

Our management historically, has not been very pilot friendly. It is getting better in some domiciles, but why take the chance? You will have a long career. Domicile flight ops management does take note of everything you communicate to them, for good or bad. They are not looking to fire people. They have spent money on getting you hired and up to speed. But there are still lots of applicants in the pond--and probationary pilots are vulnerable to firing without cause. Cull the problem children and heard early, if necessary.

Ya'll be careful out there.
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