I remember someone saying that 100% of the ORD 747 grandfathered pilots didn't come back, and they filled vacancies outside the protected slots. I don't know if someone can verify that or not. Its likely that a lot of the IAH 787 already are planning a move to the west coast, etc so maybe it doesn't end up being a big deal.

I know a few people though, that left IAH 787 FO to go fly the 747 (just for bragging rights) and said they would come back when they shut down the fleet, but now they can't, because the BES was closed for them to displace to it, even though they flew it previously, because of the way it was closed and opened again.

The Union email today regarding likely scheduling probabilities (out this morning) is interesting and makes for unusual speculation as to who might bid.....

So with basically only IAH-SYD pairings available, there are some interesting problems that can occur if you have vacation, absences, carry-in you could essentially get forced into a line with carry-over in the next month. The problem would be that PBS is then going to force you into specific trips that keep you carrying in to the next month, so a pilot could get stuck in a loop of essentially not really having any bidding choices, other than what PBS wants you to have, since the line credit range is going to drive how many days you fly.

At first I thought the SSC announcement was BS but then I started looking at it and realized that anyone not in the top few could basically get hosed each month.

Also since its a small BES, the splat is going to be HUGE, as it has to make legal lines for everyone above the G-line.

I can see lots of people complaining about their monthly schedules and I can see why the company didn't want a base for a single trip like this.

Today's CRU goes into detail about the 787 lines in IAH (mentions a 2 day domestic also in addition to SYD) and gives details about the lines for 757 DEN (15 hr 3 day Hawaii)

ALPA sent out an explanation today on the 787 vacancy bid and GF rights (who's eligible)... based on what they spelled out better really think about what your getting yourself into before using the GF rights...

Only option to get out of a cycle is to bid reserve the month before you need a day or string of days. Or just bid reserve and vdo / pick up short calls $$$

I read the email and thought that reserve would go very senior. Pilots on reserve would never fly.

With only 2CAs and 2FOs needed on reserve every night it's going to be hard to make money picking up SCs too. Since there is only 1 trip and they are planing 7-11 RSV/month VDOs will be hard to come by as well as SRM......overall sounds like a low paying bid unless you are top 5%.

I'll be looking for you to lead the charge for extended recall rights should the company ever want to re-open HNL, SEA, MIA, ANC and any other domicile that's been closed over 120 days.

Exactly right. Historically, many of us have been adversely affected by the expiration of the grandfather clause. Suck it up, buttercups, you can't change the game rules after play has started. I don't have a dog in this fight, btw, other than the desire to see our CBA administered correctly.