IAH787 grandfather rights
09-08-2017, 05:14 PM
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IAH787 grandfather rights
No CBA on my phone, Can someone post the language regarding equipment closures and grandfather rights in the case of IAH787, if any?
Open new equipment bid, or recall for displaced IAH787 pilots?
Open new equipment bid, or recall for displaced IAH787 pilots?
09-08-2017, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by awax
No CBA on my phone, Can someone post the language regarding equipment closures and grandfather rights in the case of IAH787, if any?
Open new equipment bid, or recall for displaced IAH787 pilots?
Open new equipment bid, or recall for displaced IAH787 pilots?
09-08-2017, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by awax
Thanks for posting that - so the effective date for future IAH flying for the purpose of recall has to be October 30, 2017 + 120 days. Or, February 27, 2018.
LCAL didn't have language in our contract like this as I recall.
09-09-2017, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by svergin
The way I read it, and I'm assuming this legacy language is from the UAL contract, then 100% of the IAH 787 CA/FOs will all get to come back ahead of any other pilots on any vacancy bid posted before that date.
LCAL didn't have language in our contract like this as I recall.
LCAL didn't have language in our contract like this as I recall.
09-09-2017, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by El10
Each displacement had a different effective date. The first round of displacements was 1701 if I remember correctly. You have to add 120 days to each displacement. If someone took a voluntary bump early on, their rights may expire before the vacancy opens.
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09-09-2017, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by El10
Each displacement had a different effective date. The first round of displacements was 1701 if I remember correctly. You have to add 120 days to each displacement. If someone took a voluntary bump early on, their rights may expire before the vacancy opens.
May 3, 2017
Dear IAH 787 Captains and First Officers,
As announced in the April 6th Townhall/Message from Howard, the 787 fleet will cease flying out of IAH at the end of October, 2017. As a result, the IAH 787 category is now in phase out status. The first displacement will open today, and will involve a displacement of twenty (20) IAH 787 captains and twenty (20) IAH 787 first officers. Under the provisions in Section 8-E of the UPA, this letter constitutes formal displacement notice to twenty (20) IAH 787 captains and twenty (20) IAH 787 first officers, as shown on the attached lists, with an effective date of August 29, 2017. The pilots listed on the attached sheet are required to submit
displacement bids in CCS using the procedures below by 1200 CT on May 17, 2017.
Dear IAH 787 Captains and First Officers,
As announced in the April 6th Townhall/Message from Howard, the 787 fleet will cease flying out of IAH at the end of October, 2017. As a result, the IAH 787 category is now in phase out status. The first displacement will open today, and will involve a displacement of twenty (20) IAH 787 captains and twenty (20) IAH 787 first officers. Under the provisions in Section 8-E of the UPA, this letter constitutes formal displacement notice to twenty (20) IAH 787 captains and twenty (20) IAH 787 first officers, as shown on the attached lists, with an effective date of August 29, 2017. The pilots listed on the attached sheet are required to submit
displacement bids in CCS using the procedures below by 1200 CT on May 17, 2017.
09-09-2017, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Sunvox
I think the earliest displacement was 1709D with an effective date of 8/29/17 which if I'm reading the language above correctly puts the grandfather rights out in December sometime.
09-09-2017, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by svergin
Which means 100% of them will be able to come back if they want, since this route starts in January, the vacancy bids are going to have to be in advance of that for sure.
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