That's not how I see it. For me, it's that airline pilots want the autonomy to self-certify, and want their colleagues to show some honesty when doing so, since we are all in this together.

There's no "I" in "TEAM".
But there is an "M" and and "E".

Yep, thanks awax.

Here you’ve got a guy complaining about people calling in sick and wanting to stop fake sick calls...sure, the company would love that, and they would insist that come in the way of doctor’s notes (Delta just went through this iirc). We are certainly our own worst enemies.

So what’re you willing to give up to stop fake calls over the holidays then? I say nothing, I’m willing to take a few guys calling in while I get called out on reserve...beats having to give up the ability to self-certify.


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You are a number on a seniority list... thats all. The only team that exists is the crew you're flying with on a trip and the union that represents you. This is not the military... it is a job... simple as that... so please don't insult us with the "Team" or "Its all about me" comments.

Our union and its membership agreed to the terms of this UPA... this agreement allows sick calls and mil leave to be used as deemed necessary by the pilot.,, nowhere does it say we have to crap out a doctors note because a pilot doesn't like the idea of being called on reserve to fly a trip over a holiday period. Bottom line is WE don't need to be policed by other pilots or management... we just need to follow the UPA and go home after a trip is done... thats all.

Please don't ever volunteer to be on our negotiating committee... sorry to be harsh over the holidays but this thread is ridiculous and petty.

Merry Christmas

My sarcasm meter might have been in snooze mode. I can’t imagine anyone would of meant that statement.

Where are we drinking in Tokyo? Looks like I will be joining you in the morning.

I just noticed on CCS you were tagged with the trip... I'm sure we can find somewhere to visit... ;)

unbelievable
Are you for real?
You have to be a flight ops manager

Lets be real...its the same thing that goes on every Christmas, New Years, 4th of July, etc.

It is what it is, the way it has always been and the way it will be.

The types that call in sick on Christmas when they are (a) perfectly healthy and (b) able to hold a more senior position that would allow them to bid the Holidays off can go to he**. How's that for real?

Merry Christmas

I think everyone agrees it’s poor form, but I don’t think there’s a good fix.


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