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Half wing 01-28-2018 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by Skyw (Post 2513446)
Another clueless United pilot! You guys are so cocky and think you have this industry figured out! You said United doesn't need RJ pilots? Do you know that United said they
want to invest/buy XJT? Why? Because without RJ pilots, United loses major market share. Duh!! And, you all believe United doesn't need a regional feed! WOW!! How stupid are you? I

I said UA doesn’t need United Express pilots. UA will take regional pilots from Wherever as needed. Why drain our own feed.

baseball 01-28-2018 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by Skyw (Post 2513174)
I’ve never failed an interview at any airline or company. I have more flying experience than you and most mainline pilots. I can get hired at any airline I want. But, I’m financially well off and even if United offer me a job, I could not accept it based on my schedule and vacation. I value time off.

Well, your flying experience is not relevant, nor are your interviewing skills. However, if you are financially well off, and you've spent your career in the regionals/commuters then you received your money from some other source. If you inherited it then great, good for you. But, if you didn't make it puddle jumping the cesspools of poor work rules and stand up overnights I won't be tipping my cap to you.

You appear to be satisfied doing what you are doing. Great. good for you.

baseball 01-28-2018 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by Skyw (Post 2513446)
Another clueless United pilot! You guys are so cocky and think you have this industry figured out! You said United doesn't need RJ pilots? Do you know that United said they
want to invest/buy XJT? Why? Because without RJ pilots, United loses major market share. Duh!! And, you all believe United doesn't need a regional feed! WOW!! How stupid are you? I

That's not what he said junior.

United, like all major US airlines have feed. They need planes to go to Travers City Michigan and pick up folks and bring them to Chicago so they can connect them to cool places like London. However, the economics of where the RJ/turbo prop pilots are needed and who pays them and who's seniority list they are on boils down to two things: what's great for the profession, and what's great for Kirby's bottom line.

Kirby's position is what is driving this debate. It's not really a debate amongst professional pilots. It's a debate between Kirby and the man in the mirror. He can talk to himself all day for all I care, he will just need a good therapist when it's over.

trip 01-28-2018 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by SilentLurker (Post 2513425)
I listened to FedEx CEO Fred Smith on Fox Business talk not only benefits of new tax law for FedEx, but also about pilot less cargo plane and future automation technology. He said they are heavily committed in seeing pilotless aircraft aft technology rolled out and succeed.

He believes it will happen much much sooner than many believe; most likely will happen within his life span.

Believe it, I'm hearing of a large autonomous cargo type that will fly across oceans in the mid twenties out of the way of airliner routes. It will probably be a turboprop.

Barley 01-28-2018 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by Skyw (Post 2513174)
I’ve never failed an interview at any airline or company. I have more flying experience than you and most mainline pilots. I can get hired at any airline I want. But, I’m financially well off and even if United offer me a job, I could not accept it based on my schedule and vacation. I value time off.

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Andy 01-28-2018 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by SilentLurker (Post 2513425)
I listened to FedEx CEO Fred Smith on Fox Business talk not only benefits of new tax law for FedEx, but also about pilot less cargo plane and future automation technology. He said they are heavily committed in seeing pilotless aircraft aft technology rolled out and succeed.

He believes it will happen much much sooner than many believe; most likely will happen within his life span.

That will be easier to be done at cargo carriers than passenger airlines. It will probably happen sometime in the future for passenger airlines but it's still got a long way to go.

I haven't looked at the recent hull loss frequency of military drones but they used to have a horrendous track record. Until hull losses can be reduced to near zero, there is no economic benefit to change to pilotless aircraft.

CousinEddie 01-28-2018 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by Skyw (Post 2512188)
The lack of respect for RJ pilots is unacceptable. Don't assume you make more money than me. Flying isn't my only job, I fly part-time and pay people to pick up my trips. I feel sorry for pilots like you flying full-time. It's a good way to lose a decade or two off your life.

Just curious how that works. Say you have a trip on your schedule that you can’t drop through the trade system. You actually cold call other pilots and tell them you will send them a personal check if they pick the trip up for you? Is that what you do?

MasterOfPuppets 01-28-2018 07:31 AM

“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” - George Carlin

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that". - George Carlin

Skyw 01-28-2018 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by CousinEddie (Post 2513619)
Just curious how that works. Say you have a trip on your schedule that you can’t drop through the trade system. You actually cold call other pilots and tell them you will send them a personal check if they pick the trip up for you? Is that what you do?

Yeah, you can advertise and other pilots can pick up your trips. If the trip isn't productive, you will have to pay someone a small amount like 200-400 dollars to pick up a four day trip.

Skyw 01-28-2018 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by Half wing (Post 2513541)
I said UA doesn’t need United Express pilots. UA will take regional pilots from Wherever as needed. Why drain our own feed.

Come on, are you serious? Where are you going to recruit regional pilots from? Mesa, Republic, GoJets, TSA, SkyWest? They all feed United! You probably didn’t know that. Do you even know how many pilots are leaving XJT and SkyWest every month? A couple hundred at least. XJT can only find about five people a month to replace the outgoing pilots. All the majors are hiring XJT pilots, United hires about 40 each month from XJT. The LCCs are ramping up hiring this year to take away a large amount of regional pilots away from United feeds. I’m surprised that you believe regional pilots would continue to stay in a low end job to please United...hahaha! What will United do without a feed?


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