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Airhoss 09-14-2018 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by T6 Pilot (Post 2673970)
Houston is a pain in the ass to commute from, period. I'm SFO based and 99.9% of the time, commute from Austin. However, this one time at band camp, there were approx 69 folks on the commute list - and I was #57, with 7 folks listed for the JS in front of me.

From what I could tell, this was consistent to LAX as well.

No thanks...

Commuting sucks, period.

Beetlebomb 09-14-2018 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by Airway (Post 2673902)
Seriously. When I was a new hire, if I'd been assigned a shoebox with wings and a United logo I'd have been happier than a pig rolling in ****.

I ended up on the ultraguppy so it was pretty close.

Ultra guppy?

O2pilot 09-14-2018 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by Beetlebomb (Post 2674030)
Ultra guppy?

737 NG (Newer Guppy)

cfouriv 09-14-2018 06:24 AM

New Crew resource update just posted. Good size vacancy opens today.

blizzue 09-14-2018 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by 4runner (Post 2673952)
How many letters of rec did most applicants have? I’m at 2, a job fair and up to date on airlineapps with some consulting done to my app. 7000tt, 3000 tpic, heavy time and mostly international. All 121. Trying to gauge my competitiveness and see what else I can do to get a call.

10+

Filler

RSRVWINDSURFR 09-14-2018 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by Cozmo (Post 2673922)
It seems like a fair number of the early draft picks took LAX. Is there any reason for that? Nice place to live maybe?

If you had the same choices from the 9/11 class and you had to commute through IAH, what would be your top 2 or 3 picks, and why?


I commuted from IAH to LAX for a couple of years. Pretty easy commute. Lots of flights, no weather delays, numerous airlines (UAL, AA, Spirit, and SWA to hobby if needed). IAH-SFO would be a nightmare for a junior commuter I'd imagine.

Squallrider 09-14-2018 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by cfouriv (Post 2674033)
New Crew resource update just posted. Good size vacancy opens today.

Does this mean hiring should be increasing dramatically? My thoughts on the job fair less than a week away is that it’s a blanket quick interview and most people will get a interview from it. There’s 600 attendees, maybe a third go somewhere else that’s at least 400 interviews, maybe half or so get the job that’s 200-300 people in class...3 months worth?

cadetdrivr 09-14-2018 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 2674060)
Does this mean hiring should be increasing dramatically?

Maybe, maybe not. But it does look promising.

1) FWIW, Hiring is already aggressive, and has been since the beginning of summer. This was a major improvement to the plan to wait until fall.

2) This is only a single vacancy bid. With ~450 retirements a year there will be movement and bids like this one. It's the combination of bids that tell the story, and not just a single one.

spaaks 09-14-2018 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by Airway (Post 2673902)
Seriously. When I was a new hire, if I'd been assigned a shoebox with wings and a United logo I'd have been happier than a pig rolling in ****.

I ended up on the ultraguppy so it was pretty close.


Originally Posted by Aviatorr (Post 2673813)
I’m sure there’s thousands of guys not on property that would trade place with ya to fly a 737/320......you must be one of those lucky CPP folks


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 2673769)
They can also wait for the next class and see how that works out..:D


Originally Posted by Mootang (Post 2673581)
Getting forced into the airbus as a new hire... funny how fast the perspective changes. I can think of worse places to get forced.

considering i don't have a dog in the fight, i don't really care. That's why i said it was "interesting." Yes I understand WHY they do it, i'm just saying In a business where EVERYTHING is seniority based, this is interesting.... pilots junior to said pilots are getting a choice where the senior new hire doesn't get a choice. Aren't you glad the company can't do that to you line guys? And yes i would be happy with whatever i got if i was in a UA new hire class.... life isn't fair

4runner 09-14-2018 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by O2pilot (Post 2674032)
737 NG (Newer Guppy)

Brand new record player. With a digital display. Record players are good though.

Cozmo 09-14-2018 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by 4runner (Post 2673952)
How many letters of rec did most applicants have? I’m at 2, a job fair and up to date on airlineapps with some consulting done to my app. 7000tt, 3000 tpic, heavy time and mostly international. All 121. Trying to gauge my competitiveness and see what else I can do to get a call.

I was told at my meet and greet that anything beyond the 4th letter wasn’t looked at. So if your best letter was #5+ you actually hurt your chances a little.

captsurf 09-14-2018 03:21 PM

New Hire Classes and Drops
 
From the EVP of Flight Op’s mouth (and Kirby), we will need to hire an additional 130+ pilots in addition to what we planned on hiring by April ‘19. Networking apparently added a whole bunch of hours that they weren’t planning on for next year.

SUX4U 09-14-2018 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by spaaks (Post 2674125)
considering i don't have a dog in the fight, i don't really care. That's why i said it was "interesting." Yes I understand WHY they do it, i'm just saying In a business where EVERYTHING is seniority based, this is interesting.... pilots junior to said pilots are getting a choice where the senior new hire doesn't get a choice. Aren't you glad the company can't do that to you line guys? And yes i would be happy with whatever i got if i was in a UA new hire class.... life isn't fair

For irony go check the new vacancy post about guys crying about stagnation in ORD. They should
Be grateful to be based in ORD with United. Could be soooo many worse places to be stagnant than UAL in ORD! :D

Regularguy 09-14-2018 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by 4runner (Post 2674149)
Brand new record player. With a digital display. Record players are good though.

Are you serious!!!

Any airplane that pays as well as the new and improved “guppy” is worth it.

Personally I think all the airplane bashing is getting a bit old.

I flew the “thunder guppy” and in the day it had the latest technology. PW JT8D engines, no autothrottles, max speed .78 Mach (normally started shaking before then and cruised at .73), two VORs and NDB, full analog ADI and HSI, Collins FD, non-color WX radar, 3 hour max range (need reserves) with people, really noisy cockpit, great eyebrow windows, CWS for those who couldn’t hand fly very well and an autopilot that would track an ILS, VOR and heading bug.

Of course Boeing upgraded it to the “yuppy guppy” and gave us flatten CFM engines, partial glass, an MCP with CATIIIA capability, and yet it didn’t go any faster.

“92, APU, are the people blue”

cadetdrivr 09-15-2018 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by captsurf (Post 2674335)
From the EVP of Flight Op’s mouth (and Kirby), we will need to hire an additional 130+ pilots in addition to what we planned on hiring by April ‘19.

This is great news considering that the previous plan was to essentially hire as many as possible prior to April. Somebody somewhere must have really sharpened their pencil.

The training center is gonna be a busy place.

Squallrider 09-15-2018 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by captsurf (Post 2674335)
From the EVP of Flight Op’s mouth (and Kirby), we will need to hire an additional 130+ pilots in addition to what we planned on hiring by April ‘19. Networking apparently added a whole bunch of hours that they weren’t planning on for next year.

This job fair coming up must mean good things for attendees

4runner 09-15-2018 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 2674622)
This job fair coming up must mean good things for attendees

What job fair?

Squallrider 09-16-2018 04:49 AM


Originally Posted by 4runner (Post 2675100)
What job fair?

United is hosting a by invite only job fair in Denver this coming week. Think 300 civilian fist day and 300 military next day. May also be a family/ friends of United day too but not sure how many for that.

Legacy500 09-16-2018 03:44 PM

IAH
 
With the current bids, how long before a new hire can expect to hold IAH? If I had a choice in training, which aircraft would get me based in Houston the quickest?

Thanks

F15andMD11 09-16-2018 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by Legacy500 (Post 2675460)
With the current bids, how long before a new hire can expect to hold IAH? If I had a choice in training, which aircraft would get me based in Houston the quickest?

Of course it all depends, as things change, but currently the 737 is the jr aircraft there. So that be quickest. That wasn’t the case a few years ago.
Timeframe, 5-8 months, give or take. Airbus, a couple years. You get a 757 in training now you’re talking 4 years plus. Or switching aircraft after seat lock to get in sooner.:cool:

Grumble 09-16-2018 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by F15andMD11 (Post 2675469)
Of course it all depends, as things change, but currently the 737 is the jr aircraft there. So that be quickest. That wasn’t the case a few years ago.
Timeframe, 5-8 months, give or take. Airbus, a couple years. You get a 757 in training now you’re talking 4 years plus. Or switching aircraft after seat lock to get in sooner.:cool:

Last man power update had sfo, IAH 756 shrinking, ord flat, narrowbody growth on the coasts and IAH flat.

Someone smarter than me can post the details but I wouldn’t plan on holding IAH anytime soon unless there are backfills.

Galaxy5 09-16-2018 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by F15andMD11 (Post 2675469)
Of course it all depends, as things change, but currently the 737 is the jr aircraft there. So that be quickest. That wasn’t the case a few years ago.
Timeframe, 5-8 months, give or take. Airbus, a couple years. You get a 757 in training now you’re talking 4 years plus. Or switching aircraft after seat lock to get in sooner.:cool:

Things do change, as you mention, but Jr guy in IAH today is about 19 months on property.

MILUAL 09-17-2018 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by captsurf (Post 2674335)
From the EVP of Flight Op’s mouth (and Kirby), we will need to hire an additional 130+ pilots in addition to what we planned on hiring by April ‘19. Networking apparently added a whole bunch of hours that they weren’t planning on for next year.

Good news for everybody. Can I ask when you heard this and where?

Fresh 09-17-2018 10:07 AM

Sounds accurate after reading the latest MEC update. “The company has indicated this Vacancy Bid is the first of what will most likely be monthly vacancy bids, continuing over the next six to eight months in preparation for summer 2019.”

Punkpilot48 09-17-2018 03:37 PM

How early do new hires get the call for class? Sorry I know it’s been asked before.

pilotgolfer 09-17-2018 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by Punkpilot48 (Post 2676074)
How early do new hires get the call for class? Sorry I know it’s been asked before.

They usually aren’t in the office before 9am.

Punkpilot48 09-17-2018 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 2676127)
They usually aren’t in the office before 9am.

Ok right on; but like 30 days, 2 weeks, what?

82spukram 09-17-2018 05:44 PM

30 days out is the earliest.

Big Perm 09-17-2018 07:48 PM

29AUG interview. Got notified today for a 16OCT class date. Merica.

Cozmo 09-17-2018 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by Big Perm (Post 2676239)
29AUG interview. Got notified today for a 16OCT class date. Merica.

How long after the interview were you told you were hired?

Big Perm 09-17-2018 08:15 PM

The next week on a Thursday morning.

O2pilot 09-17-2018 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by Big Perm (Post 2676239)
29AUG interview. Got notified today for a 16OCT class date. Merica.

Its going to be fast and furious hiring. Latest ALPA update was 6-8 more big monthly vacancy bids like the one we have now. Merica.

cfouriv 09-18-2018 03:41 AM


Originally Posted by Big Perm (Post 2676239)
29AUG interview. Got notified today for a 16OCT class date. Merica.

That's great! Less than 2 months, congrats and welcome to United.

MasterOfPuppets 09-19-2018 06:26 AM

More new hire classes announced!

November 5/6
December 3/4
January 7/8
February 4/5

Keep em coming. Good luck everyone.

ThePenguin328 09-19-2018 09:38 AM

As long as they keep posting vacancies on the big metal the good times will continue to roll.

Hilltopper89 09-19-2018 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by ThePenguin328 (Post 2677239)
As long as they keep posting vacancies on the big metal the good times will continue to roll.

Yes..and NB CA going very junior. Looks to get even more so.

Welcome to all the new hires. Glad you’re here.

pilotgolfer 09-19-2018 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by Hilltopper89 (Post 2677246)
Yes..and NB CA going very junior. Looks to get even more so.

Welcome to all the new hires. Glad you’re here.

It seems like yesterday when you were a new hire...has it been 5 years already?

Hilltopper89 09-19-2018 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 2677255)
It seems like yesterday when you were a new hire...has it been 5 years already?

Lol. Yes. I’m still relatively new but in my 6th year already.

Falcondrivr 09-20-2018 03:58 AM

Yesterday at the Expo I thought I heard Susan say that they were still interviewing people for the 10/16 class. Does that mean the pool is empty?

Squallrider 09-20-2018 04:14 AM


Originally Posted by Falcondrivr (Post 2677749)
Yesterday at the Expo I thought I heard Susan say that they were still interviewing people for the 10/16 class. Does that mean the pool is empty?

She said the pool is very low and the classes aren’t full. I think a lot depends on how many people decide to come back from furlough each month.


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