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MasterOfPuppets 02-09-2018 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by snolat (Post 2524036)
Maybe I missed it, but how many hew hire v. Returning?

32 new hires. unknown, to me atleast l, how many furlough returns.

FGHJKL 02-09-2018 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by snolat (Post 2524036)
Maybe I missed it, but how many hew hire v. Returning?

The classes are separate. Returning pilots go to 1 week of "Redoc", which starts on Monday. New hires go to 2 weeks of "BI", which starts on Tuesday. Not much overlap. My unconfirmed intel suggest each Redoc class is normally limited to about 9 returnees (max). Based on posts in this forum, the BI classes seem to have about 31 or 32, so the pilot training load in Denver is about 40 pilots per cycle. I believe the Feb 5th Redoc class had about 9 returnees and I think the Feb 19th Redoc class will have about 6 returnees...but all of this is based on 2nd hand info.

snolat 02-09-2018 02:08 PM

32 new hires per class would be nice. Thanks guys.

ugleeual 02-09-2018 02:12 PM

unless something has changed in the last 4 years returnees (furlough/mil leave) go to BI just like new hires... unless they have been out for less than a year.

detpilot 02-09-2018 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 2524171)
unless something has changed in the last 4 years returnees (furlough/mil leave) go to BI just like new hires... unless they have been out for less than a year.

I had 2 returnees in my BI class in 15 as well.

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FGHJKL 02-09-2018 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 2524171)
unless something has changed

Yes, it changed recently.

TransWorld 02-09-2018 05:59 PM

How many furloughees are still out there?

When is the final ‘last call’ when they have to accept recall or lose their chance?

I know it would be a guess, but what percentage do you think will accept recall?

As reference, the final group of the furloughed exTWA AA pilots had significantly less than 50% that accepted ‘last call’.

awax 02-09-2018 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 2524171)
unless something has changed in the last 4 years returnees (furlough/mil leave) go to BI just like new hires... unless they have been out for less than a year.

Yeah, not true. I have personal knowledge that's not the way it is. It should be, but it's not.

MasterOfPuppets 02-09-2018 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 2524341)
How many furloughees are still out there?

When is the final ‘last call’ when they have to accept recall or lose their chance?

I know it would be a guess, but what percentage do you think will accept recall?

As reference, the final group of the furloughed exTWA AA pilots had significantly less than 50% that accepted ‘last call’.

There are still about 200 out. The first group has to be back by fall of this year, 08' furloughs, and the second group needs to be back by next fall, 09' furloughs.

UAL furloughed 1437 and CAL furloughed 147. So thats a pretty high return percentage.

TransWorld 02-09-2018 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 2524350)
There are still about 200 out. The first group has to be back by fall of this year, 08' furloughs, and the second group needs to be back by next fall, 09' furloughs.

UAL furloughed 1437 and CAL furloughed 147. So thats a pretty high return percentage.

Thanks! Think that helps a lot who were unclear.

Just for clarification, the return percentage for the exTWA AA Pilots I was saying was of the very ‘last call’ batch.

There were well over a thousand that returned in previous years. There were a few hundred that declined and came off the list in previous years. I am not talking about them.


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