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iHateAMR 02-10-2018 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 2524341)
As reference, the final group of the furloughed exTWA AA pilots had significantly less than 50% that accepted ‘last call’.

TWA Pilots got incredibly hosed by AA, not to mention the horrid culture they’d return to. I’m surprised even that many returned.

TransWorld 02-10-2018 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by iHateAMR (Post 2524528)
TWA Pilots got incredibly hosed by AA, not to mention the horrid culture they’d return to. I’m surprised even that many returned.

I am sorry you hate AA. As a whole, most furloughed TWA pilots returned on initial recall. They jumped at the chance. The percentage I quote is for the final batch that waited until the ‘last call’ to decide.

Yes, somewhere between a third and a half of the TWA pilots got stapled. Someone who had 10 years was below a brand new LAA pilot. That meant it was the TWA pilots that got furloughed.

Worse, a 35 year TWA FA was stapled below a brand new LAA FA. But, it is what it is. People have sucked it up and dealt with it . There has been a lot of progress in recent years, pay and otherwise. It is still not perfect, nor is any airline.

Sniper66 02-11-2018 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by iHateAMR (Post 2524528)
TWA Pilots got incredibly hosed by AA, not to mention the horrid culture they’d return to. I’m surprised even that many returned.



If it was not for American TWA would have shut down day after 9/11
Big mistake for AMR to buy them ——- 6.5 billion dollars FUp $$$

HuggyU2 02-11-2018 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 2524341)
When is the final ‘last call’ when they have to accept recall or lose their chance?

It is 10 years from the date they were furloughed the last time.

For reference, a couple of guys I know were hired late 99 or early 2000: they must be back NLT Sept 2018.

TransWorld 02-11-2018 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 2525593)
If it was not for American TWA would have shut down day after 9/11
Big mistake for AMR to buy them ——- 6.5 billion dollars FUp $$$

Memory serves, it was $500 million AA paid for TWA and they received 190 planes in the deal. That amounts to $2.6 million per plane. Pretty decent cost per used plane. (Mostly MD80s, with some 717, 757, and 747s.) There were some other liabilities. But, you may recall it better than I.

Incidentally, the last TWA plane is planned to be retired by AA end of this year, 2018, so they got some good flying out of the aircraft they acquired. Oh, and they also got some loyal PAX and a bunch of pilots and FA thrown in as a party favor.

Dave Fitzgerald 02-12-2018 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 2525896)
Incidentally, the last TWA plane is planned to be retired by AA end of this year, 2018, so they got some good flying out of the aircraft they acquired. Oh, and they also got some loyal PAX and a bunch of pilots and FA thrown in as a party favor.

I just saw a Delta 757 with a TW N number. Aren't those planes the ones traded by AMR to Delta? Pratts for the RR planes Delta had? Those should live on at Delta for quite a while.

Baradium 02-12-2018 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald (Post 2526495)
I just saw a Delta 757 with a TW N number. Aren't those planes the ones traded by AMR to Delta? Pratts for the RR planes Delta had? Those should live on at Delta for quite a while.

Those are also the 75s that have 2 jumpseats. I think they generally do things like JFK-LAX and Atlantic.

Beaver Hunter 02-12-2018 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by HuggyU2 (Post 2525635)
It is 10 years from the date they were furloughed the last time.

For reference, a couple of guys I know were hired late 99 or early 2000: they must be back NLT Sept 2018.

Your info is in error. I am a 03/2000 hire. My drop dead date is 09/2019.

UALfoLIFE 02-12-2018 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by Beaver Hunter (Post 2526795)
Your info is in error. I am a 03/2000 hire. My drop dead date is 09/2019.

Ru coming back?

Beaver Hunter 02-12-2018 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by UALfoLIFE (Post 2526856)
Ru coming back?

Yup, end of this year or beginning of 2019. Waiting for WB FO to start going a bit more jr.


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