Originally Posted by Theplug (Post 3371865)

I doubt putting 2-3 new hires, out of 60+, on WB would alleviate any strain on the NB side.

Originally Posted by Andy (Post 3371682)

In the recent past, if the bottom guys didn't like the choices during the pre-lunch dry run, they could talk to the instructors teaching indoc and get the class drop altered so that there would be equipment available to them that they desired.
They did this for my redoc (when one's been out for a long time, they would send you back through indoc) class and the classes before and after us. Granted, that's been a while, but I am surprised that they'd force someone into the 787. With so many newhires every week, there should be some flexibility on drop composition.

Originally Posted by Andy (Post 3371682)

In the recent past, if the bottom guys didn't like the choices during the pre-lunch dry run, they could talk to the instructors teaching indoc and get the class drop altered so that there would be equipment available to them that they desired.
They did this for my redoc (when one's been out for a long time, they would send you back through indoc) class and the classes before and after us. Granted, that's been a while, but I am surprised that they'd force someone into the 787. With so many newhires every week, there should be some flexibility on drop composition.

Originally Posted by FlewNavy (Post 3372774)

I don't think this is a thing for basic indoc.... yes- the company will force someone onto the 787 if it is the last thing available - just like they have forced countless others onto the 756 which also does long haul international work.

Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3372843)

we are having atlas pilots showing up as new hires
why not give them the WBs open spots since they have plenty of experience on crossings etc
if they want

Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3372843)

we are having atlas pilots showing up as new hires
why not give them the WBs open spots since they have plenty of experience on crossings etc
if they want

Originally Posted by FlewNavy (Post 3372958)

The people with international WB experience at Atlas or the Military are welcome to bid 777/787 on Day 1 of Basic Indoc as their seniority in class permits. At the end of the day - if nobody wants them - then the 8 ball in the class will be flying a widebody airplane with a captain that could easily be their parent - which I don't think has happened yet but I'm sure it will be posted on FT when it does!

Originally Posted by FlewNavy (Post 3372958)

The people with international WB experience at Atlas or the Military are welcome to bid 777/787 on Day 1 of Basic Indoc as their seniority in class permits. At the end of the day - if nobody wants them - then the 8 ball in the class will be flying a widebody airplane with a captain that could easily be their parent - which I don't think has happened yet but I'm sure it will be posted on FT when it does!

Originally Posted by Mustang1992 (Post 3373552)

Anyone have any of the latest class drops? I like to see the trends of where everyone is going as a new hire.

Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot (Post 3373606)

This weeks class: (70 total)
39 - 737 FO (DCA,EWR,SFO,LAX)
13 - 756 FO (DCA, EWR, SFO, LAX)
7 - Airbus FO (DCA, EWR, SFO, LAX, IAH, ORD)
5 - 787 FO (EWR, SFO)
6 - 777 FO (EWR, SFO)

Expect this to continue each week for a long time with 500 planes on order. Anybody could have picked 777 FO since it went to the bottom.

Originally Posted by KnightNight (Post 3373646)

Just to add the amount of widebody slots is unusual.

Usually classes are EWR, LAX , SFO mostly 737 and slightly less Airbus, with a few less 756. Sometimes ORD, IAH and DEN make an appearance but I wouldn’t suspect to see that till after next vacancy.

Originally Posted by JulietSierra89 (Post 3373788)

are there seat locks? If so how long?

Originally Posted by TankerPatch (Post 3373158)

FWIW, I’m quite sure there are WB Captains flying with FOs who could be their parents. I have an Indoc start date, but haven’t started yet…and one of my Indoc classmates was born a year and a half after I graduated college. I’m not even the oldest guy in the class.

Originally Posted by Mach Tuck (Post 3374546)

Where have you learned who is in your Indoc class? I have Indoc coming up as well. Thanks in advance!

Originally Posted by KnightNight (Post 3374548)

There’s a half winger / new hire page on Facebook where people share info. Usually there’s a message for each class with a WhatsApp group invite

Originally Posted by Mach Tuck (Post 3374550)

I checked that out today, thanks. This may just be my paranoia from years at the airlines, but any company backlash or negative side of being on that group?

Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3374777)

just don’t post anything you would not be comfortable to say to folks on the job in person.

Originally Posted by Gilligan13 (Post 3374987)

Out of the 78 and 77 which has better layover locations?

Originally Posted by RNO Flyer (Post 3375307)

Realistically, how long would it take for someone to hold 756 at IAH or DEN?

Originally Posted by ReadOnly7 (Post 3375341)

new hire.
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Originally Posted by RNO Flyer (Post 3375362)

I haven’t seen that on the initial drops. One could hold IAH by the end of training?

Originally Posted by RNO Flyer (Post 3375362)

I haven’t seen that on the initial drops. One could hold IAH by the end of training?

Originally Posted by dadman3000 (Post 3375738)

How long to hold a line in CLE? Also, how long to upgrade in CLE? Does CLE have both the 73 and 320?

Originally Posted by dadman3000 (Post 3375738)

How long to hold a line in CLE? Also, how long to upgrade in CLE? Does CLE have both the 73 and 320?

Originally Posted by Lumberg823 (Post 3375767)

Gline this month was a spring 2018 hire. I don't think that is normal but nothing lately is normal as in unfilled CA and WB FO seats.

Originally Posted by dadman3000 (Post 3375778)

Sorry for my lack of united knowledge, what is a Gline? Also, is the commuter policy 2 flights ahead on company metal?

Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot (Post 3373606)

This weeks class: (70 total)
39 - 737 FO (DCA,EWR,SFO,LAX)
13 - 756 FO (DCA, EWR, SFO, LAX)
7 - Airbus FO (DCA, EWR, SFO, LAX, IAH, ORD)
5 - 787 FO (EWR, SFO)
6 - 777 FO (EWR, SFO)

Expect this to continue each week for a long time with 500 planes on order. Anybody could have picked 777 FO since it went to the bottom.

Originally Posted by LikeABrick (Post 3376534)

Just out of pure curiosity...for those that get stuck with/select the 77 or 78 and stay with it for their careers, how long would it be until they find themselves in the left seat?

Originally Posted by KnightNight (Post 3376539)

Depending on the base…probably 15 years. Half the list retires in next 10 tho so maybe less

Originally Posted by UnableVNAVPTH (Post 3376559)

I was hired late last year. Based on the seniority progression page on CCS, i’ll meet the current SFO 777 CA plug number in 20ish years. A lot of stuff will change by 2042 so it’s impossible to gauge accurately of course.

Originally Posted by FlewNavy (Post 3372774)

I don't think this is a thing for basic indoc.... yes- the company will force someone onto the 787 if it is the last thing available - just like they have forced countless others onto the 756 which also does long haul international work.

Originally Posted by dingdong (Post 3372785)

I don't remember any "dry-run" on day one.

What I remember is the instructors saying "You get what you get, and you don't get upset. If you don't like what you got, the door is over there".

Originally Posted by TankerPatch (Post 3373158)

FWIW, I’m quite sure there are WB Captains flying with FOs who could be their parents. I have an Indoc start date, but haven’t started yet…and one of my Indoc classmates was born a year and a half after I graduated college. I’m not even the oldest guy in the class.

Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot (Post 3373606)

This weeks class: (70 total)
39 - 737 FO (DCA,EWR,SFO,LAX)
13 - 756 FO (DCA, EWR, SFO, LAX)
7 - Airbus FO (DCA, EWR, SFO, LAX, IAH, ORD)
5 - 787 FO (EWR, SFO)
6 - 777 FO (EWR, SFO)

Expect this to continue each week for a long time with 500 planes on order. Anybody could have picked 777 FO since it went to the bottom.

Originally Posted by GoCats67 (Post 3385407)

What was the drop this week? Wondering if the company is going to try to liquidate the remaining 777/787 FO unfilleds before they expire on the 17th or if the Global situation has made those spots unneccesary to fill.