You bid for the available unfilled vacancies based on your seniority in the class which is done by age.

 

To add to that, if while I’m training a new vacancy opens up, you can put a bid in and be awarded a new domicile before finishing training. Obviously seat lock rules apply.....


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Have any Hogans gone out recently or is it a waiting game until the latter part of the year?

 

Does UA allow any open vacancy to be filled during training, or are specific classes for specific vacancies

For example- 30 open EWR A320, 10 open LAX 756, 10 open LAX 737.

Can anyone in the class bid for any one of those vacancies, or will they have a class specifically for like 30 A320. Or 10 737, 10 756, 10 A320 and can only bid for what’s offered?


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Our class was offered specific bases and equipment. I.e. 15 EWR 73, 7 EWR 320, 15 SFO 73, 10 SFO 320. There was 1 LAX 756.

 

Sad statement if you ask me.

 

First day of Indoc they will post on the board the open vacancies. Returning guys will get first pick. Then new hires will pick bases on seniority in the class (age). They just go down the list and ask what you want. That becomes your initial assignment.... But if a vacancy bid opens while you’re there, you can bid in that. Seat locks still apply so if your initial award is 737 you can’t bid A320 in the vacancy (but could bid up to 756).... When I was new I was awarded DCA 737 and before being done with training was awarded ORD 737 in a vacancy bid.

 

In class you can bid for any open vacancy if there is one. When you show up day 1, you are advised of what is available to bid. New hires bid on vacancies that went unfilled from a previous vacancy that has already closed. Day 2 you bid on these unfilled vacancies within your new hire class and find out your airplane and base that morning. At any time during training if a new vacancy bid comes out you can bid on and be awarded a new seat/ base. Check applicable bid/training freezes in contract.

 

Vacancies can only be offered to new-hires after they've gone unfilled on a vacancy bid. This gives existing pilots the first shot at them.

Those unfilled vacancies *MAY* then be given to new-hires but the company is under no obligation to fill them. Those unfilled vacancies expire after (I think) 90-days but can be used for multiple classes of new-hires until they expire.

Once all unfilled vacancies have expired, the company must have another vacancy bid to produce additional unfilled vacancies before they can have any additional new-hires.

When a new class starts in Denver there may be 30 people in the class but many more unfilled vacancies from previous vacancy bid(s). The company chooses which 30 of the unfilled vacancies will be offered to that specific class.

Once a new pilot has started class they are eligible to bid on any open vacancy bid. The only restriction is the seat locks from their initial award so they can't lateral to other equipment (737 to 320 or vis versa) but they can bid up (737 or 320 to 756) and they can bid other bases in their current airplane.

 

I'll add to what others posted in response to this. I went through ReDoc (Indoc for UAL returnees) about 2 1/2 yrs ago after being out on long term disability.

The instructor in charge of the class asked everyone what plane/base they wanted before finalizing the list of planes/bases offered. He was able to get a couple of changes made so that everyone got pretty much what they wanted. It helped that a lot of new hires in my class wanted EWR.

I posted upthread what the unfilled vacancies were. If you're in one of the upcoming classes, look at the list and rank order what you'd want; that will give you realistic expectations.