As a nonrev standby, how do you “hold” a seat in the back regardless of seniority? Not sure as to what you’re referring to.

Let’s say the flight is showing -5, you see the names on the list and theirs is listed twice.

Once for SA, other for JS.

By the time all the no shows and misconnects were accounted for and the non-revs start getting cleared, and sure as sh1t it got down to where their name WAS on the SA list.

IOW, they could have held a seat in the back, yet just took the JS and sent down without even waiting for it to pan out.

I completely agree. We should at least have a cut off time. It’s absolutely ridiculous and stupid IMO

We used to have a 20 minute cut off at s-UAL (should be NLT 20) but just like how we now have with the should requirement to meet in the FPA before the first leg of a trip, there were individuals that argued that it was written as “should, not shall” so they didn’t think it applied to them. Eventually it was dropped.

Another suck is asking a Delta or Southwest pilot if they would mind sitting in the flight attendant jumpseat so you can take their cockpit jump. UA pilots o can not reciprocate because that is the United flight attendant's jumpseat and not United's. The rules do need a visit. This crap is antiquated. Not sure what the argument is on allowing FAs in our jumpseat. They are up there already.

Couldnt agree more . This old school mind set needs to go ... most airlines allow this .

I think it is best to refer to it as the "cabin" jumpseat not the flight attendant jumpseat.

I agree that the pilots should have access to the cabin jumpseat with a priority given to UA flight attendants. Considering that it is an empty seat, with the ability to get a crewmember in position to perform duty for the company, it seems crazy that the airline would choose to restrict this.
I also agree that we should allow a reservation system for the pilots that allows us to guarantee the js. Once again the company benefits because the pilot gets to work and it allows alternative planning for everyone well in advance of 10 minutes prior to push.
And it relieves the agent of one more last minute duty.

My feelings about changing the jumpseat system seemed to be in the minority in the last thread this was discussed.

But then wouldn’t that seat that the senior guy would have had in the back just go to the next guy down the list? Still gets filled by the next most senior non rev right?

You are correct. This is just a pilots looking out for pilots strategy.

If the senior jumpseater for example was an 87' hire date he/she might be way up the list for a seat in the cabin. Meanwhile the junior jumpseater is say a 15' hire date. Way down the list for a cabin seat. The normal etiquette is for the senior guy to stand by for a seat in the cabin to allow the junior jumpseater an opportunity to occupy the jumpseat.
Getting the most senior non rev on in your example would often not be the junior pilot but someone else.