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Originally Posted by Snyper00
(Post 2604359)
Am I the only one that thinks that our jumpseat rules are complete garbage? Every other airline does FCFS within a time window and we’re the only place where a senior guy can list 10 mins prior to push and bump you off. Which has happened to me more than once already. Glad we’re on the same team! 🙄
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Originally Posted by CaptGringo
(Post 2605077)
But then wouldn’t that seat that the senior guy would have had in the back just go to the next guy down the list? Still gets filled by the next most senior non rev right?
Originally Posted by sydney5316
(Post 2605087)
You are correct. This is just a pilots looking out for pilots strategy.
Although there is a “special” subset that has a track record of not looking out for pilots.
Originally Posted by RomeoHotel
(Post 2605092)
If the senior jumpseater for example was an 87' hire date he/she might be way up the list for a seat in the cabin. Meanwhile the junior jumpseater is say a 15' hire date. Way down the list for a cabin seat. The normal etiquette is for the senior guy to stand by for a seat in the cabin to allow the junior jumpseater an opportunity to occupy the jumpseat.
Getting the most senior non rev on in your example would often not be the junior pilot but someone else. “I’m gonna take the JS to help get more standbys on.....” |
[QUOTE=John Carr;2605204]Well, sure.......
^^^^THIS Although there is a “special” subset that has a track record of not looking out for pilots. ^^^^AND this. “I’m gonna take the JS to help get more standbys on.....”[/QUOTE Exactly. I see this frequently and it ****es me off to no end. I don’t mind if the guy is one above me on the cabin standby list but it’s usually some super senior guy who’s way above me for the cabin and already gone down to take the JS. Clueless and selfish is what it is. Some of these guys don’t even list for the cabin. |
Originally Posted by Hilltopper89
(Post 2605450)
Exactly. I see this frequently and it ****es me off to no end. I don’t mind if the guy is one above me on the cabin standby list but it’s usually some super senior guy who’s way above me for the cabin and already gone down to take the JS. Clueless and selfish is what it is. Some of these guys don’t even list for the cabin.
Think about how that sounds to every other working group at UAL. Ever wonder why some gate agents don’t like pilots? |
Originally Posted by UALinIAH
(Post 2605469)
So it’s ok for him to bump another coworker in the back who’s senior to you but is not a pilot so you can get on the plane out of seniority order?
Think about how that sounds to every other working group at UAL. Ever wonder why some gate agents don’t like pilots? Senior guy takes the cabin coach seat in respective seniority order and junior guy takes the unoccupied jumpseat and you stretch that into "get on the plane out of seniority order" .... Nobody is doing anything below board.... How's this ....I utilize a vacation pass and let the gamesmanship begin.... look at all the "out of seniority order" status I've gained now. |
Originally Posted by RomeoHotel
(Post 2605481)
That's a weak effort at a low blow....really..?
Senior guy takes the cabin coach seat in respective seniority order and junior guy takes the unoccupied jumpseat and you stretch that into "get on the plane out of seniority order" .... Nobody is doing anything below board.... How's this ....I utilize a vacation pass and let the gamesmanship begin.... look at all the "out of seniority order" status I've gained now. Vacation pass, they’re yours do as you want. I have never used a vacation pass for a commute. I actually use them for vacation with my family but I don’t have a problem if someone wants to use them to commute. We all get an allotment to use as needed. I’d personally rather see us all get X number of fee waived FC/BC seats for travel. It’s the only reason I use them. To go international with a chance for a comfy seat fee waived. |
Originally Posted by UALinIAH
(Post 2605515)
It was an honest question. Why are we as pilots so special that we should get on ahead of other more senior coworkers? And that someone would get ****ed because a senior pilot didn’t screw a coworker for the junior person.
Vacation pass, they’re yours do as you want. I have never used a vacation pass for a commute. I actually use them for vacation with my family but I don’t have a problem if someone wants to use them to commute. We all get an allotment to use as needed. I’d personally rather see us all get X number of fee waived FC/BC seats for travel. It’s the only reason I use them. To go international with a chance for a comfy seat fee waived. |
Originally Posted by Hilltopper89
(Post 2605528)
We don’t get on ahead or out of seniority. He gets on in his seniority and the more junior guy gets the Jumpseat.
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Originally Posted by Hilltopper89
(Post 2605528)
We don’t get on ahead or out of seniority. He gets on in his seniority and the more junior guy gets the Jumpseat.
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Originally Posted by Hilltopper89
(Post 2605528)
We don’t get on ahead or out of seniority. He gets on in his seniority and the more junior guy gets the Jumpseat.
Exactly. No one is bumping anyone. I believe that "helping" a non rev by taking the jumpseat has become an expectation on our coworkers part. |
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