I’d be willing to bet you are in the vast minority. The junior guy isn’t asking him to bump anybody. He’s asking a fellow pilot to help him get to work. And I’ve never asked...I just hope they have the sense to do it on their own. Somehow you think this comes down to junior pilots thinking they’re better than everybody else? Jeez. I guess I’m done here then. So how do you feel about senior guys with a PS seat who take the Jumpseat to help the gate agent out when there are guys listed for the JS? Cuz I’ve seen this as well.

And I do it all the time. I always tell the agent when they call me for a seat that I’m double listed and will take the JS if that helps another nonrev get on. Other times I’ve seen guys not do that. That’s a foul as well.

I do as well. I'm just stating that it has become an expectation in my opinion. I have no problem "helping" as long as the flights aren't super long.

Now the PS seat holding JSer is a POS for doing that crap :mad:

Sorta. Suppose its IAD-SEA or some other far away destination. Am I supposed to shoehorn myself into Crap7 JS so that a bag smasher hired last month can occupy a seat in Econ Plus? While I agree that we look like jerks when we don't, at some point it becomes a real issue.

I have done that more than a dozen times during my tenure at MU. But the older I get - and the more my lower back acts up the less likely I am to agree with you. You, of course, are free to do as you wish.

Fair enough, I am obviously in the minority. I commuted to ORD for 15 yrs from 95-2010 and never saw pilots displacing someone from their seat in the back to get a junior pilot in the cockpit who otherwise would have had to wait for their backup. I was taught by the old farts who walked the line that seniority was what mattered. JS is by seniority. Senior person got it. In the back seniority matter, the senior EMPLOYEE not pilot got on.

I’ll bow out as it seems today’s commuters are all about ME. God help the next generation.

I’m just glad I moved to driving distance. I’ll let my friends who aren’t pilots know, just drop the vacation pass and see if they senior CA is willing to do the same to get the 2015 hire in the JS.

You’re asking a more senior pilot to disregard their seniority because the inbound flight may block in one hour or less from outbound departure?

Let me know how that works out.

The current system allows pilots to list prior to the flight and be displayed in seniority order. What’s the mystery?
If you’re number 3 with 2 pilots senior checked in for the jumpseat, guess what!?

That said, I think most guys will list for and check in for a seat in back and just list for the jumpseat. If the jumpseat is the only option they’ll check in for the JS at the gate and go that route.

Yes, it sucks to commute and it sucks to be junior. If you have to commute AND be junior, the pain is exponential.

Ok I’m with you now. I see what you’re saying. Agree.

The mystery is the senior pilot who doesn’t LIST until inside a half an hour prior to push. Had the senior pilot listed, the junior pilot could have taken an earlier flight, or turned it into a 2 leg commute and gone through a different hub.

I get the way seniority works, and that everybody will have their turn at the mic.

I don’t expect, but I appreciate crew that looks out for other crew. Primary examples include: listing ahead of time, coordinating if its possible for the senior person to take a seat in back, and making sure nobody got left behind with open seats.

The ship has already sailed on a FCFS, that aint going to happen. I will stand my spot in the back of the line; however, I really appreaciate it when the senior people telegraph their intentions... This way I can adjust my plan.

Fair enough as well. I don’t see this at all as all about ME. I’d say that about the senior guy who disregards his fellow pilots 4-8 times a month. I am planning on moving to base as well. I’ve seen this...pilots helping pilots...constantly from most guys senior to me. They do what it takes to help help get pilots to work. You cannot implicate the younger generation because far and away almost all of yours does it too. I stated that it was an unusual exception to see otherwise...but it happens on occasion.