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Grumble 07-28-2018 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by terminal (Post 2644195)
Just find it ironic that this thread is complaining about not hiring, then do things like that and wonder why

We are hiring, no one is on furlough, they’re aggressively trying to expand our flying.... you want them to stop all that? I’m not advocating for the (ladies of the night) that will line their pockets on the backs of others during the down times or violate the contract to their own behest... but if you want the hiring to continue, the profit sharing checks to keep rolling in, and the demand there to require all that hiring and growth at some point you need to stop being part of the problem and help pull on the rope.

Will the situation change? If history is any indicator yes, absolutely, but now is not the time.

ERJ Jay 07-28-2018 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 2644226)
but if you want the hiring to continue, the profit sharing checks to keep rolling in, and the demand there to require all that hiring and growth at some point you need to stop being part of the problem and help pull on the rope.

100% Agree - well said.

This is the time for the whole team to work together and take the hill while the winds are at our backs.

When the winds of war shift, then we can hunker down and dig in - but for now, it’s time to advance the line (operational, financial, customer Service) and advance the front.

oldmako 07-28-2018 05:54 PM

So they can go after US in the next downturn?

:D

Grumble 07-28-2018 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2644389)
So they can go after US in the next downturn?

:D

They’re going to either way. If you want to sit on your couch and bag 70 hours a month while it’s booming that’s your absolute right and no on e will complain. More PPU for the rest of us storing for winter.

oldmako 07-28-2018 07:00 PM

You've pegged me incorrectly, especially if you are targeting me in post #27 below.

I've been bidding a line for quite a while now. And, quite disappointed with the low time awards. And my 401K has been more than maxed out ever since I came back from Mother U's work-release program.

We lurch from rags to riches and then when the feces impacts the compressor, WE are typically the group who is most severely impacted and often blamed. Show me the money indeed. And when it's not the money, it's Judge Lefkow and James Sprayregen

(see - Kirkland and Ellis .... at least 85 Million....

https://www.law360.com/articles/5081...ted-bankruptcy )

and more rags for us.

And therein lies the rub.

guppie 07-28-2018 07:14 PM

For the newbies

United scores win over pilots union - tribunedigital-chicagotribune

SO....come hell or high water. By hook or by crook.... GET SOME

Grumble 07-28-2018 07:23 PM

Library of Congress Aesop Fables

Nucflash 07-28-2018 10:05 PM

If a flight is delayed for hours due to no crew but finally operates, it is not cancelled. That is the main thing the company wants.....to avoid a cancellation, as defined by DOT.

As far as ramping up new-hire staffing for this summer, they seemed to be about three months behind where they should have been. They were short of LCAs as well. I flew with newly selected LCAs who were just getting signed off to administer OE and it was already May. Ideally that should have happened in late winter.

cobalt650 07-29-2018 03:51 AM

Sooooo———Is hiring actually going to accelerate this fall? That’s the real question. Indicators are there, just no additional class dates yet.

jendrud756 07-30-2018 07:46 AM

We are running a more aggressive summer than the last few years and maintaining completion percentage of 99.5% which is same as last summer. Seems like it's still on the rails.


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