I was going to point that out but Zenofin is on a mission. He don’t need no stinking facts.

In all professions there will be people who hold "grudges" and whom harbor anger and resentment to how they were treated.

I get it. But, here's the deal. If we haven't walked in that persons shoes we can't really judge that person. In all professions there are hurt feelings over one thing or another. Sometimes these feelings can last a few months, a few years, or will linger the rest of their working career.

It was far from wrong when management held grudges. Heck, that's what got the IACP on property at CAL in the first place. When McCoy and Abbot made it personal and personally attacked, targeted, disciplined, and terminated pilots the union was born. Those pilots adversely affected still hold grudges, and I don't blame them.

With time, feelings of mis-treatment and resentment fade. I would predict that we will see less of this in the future, the farther we get away from those dark years, the CAL strike, the UAL strike, age 65, POS 02, the lost decade, etc.

Most pilots have something they hold on to. Let me share with you something that Fred Abbot told me once. He said, after a grievance hearing in which I lost....."I hope you don't come away with the feeling that you need to get even, or get back at the company as a result of the outcome of this case." My reply. "Fred, I never get even, and even if I felt that way, I would keep it to myself."

There is a saying. Time heals all wounds. I predict the things you speak of will happen more infrequently with the passage of more time. I no longer carry my Fred Abbot voodoo doll and stick pins, so I guess there's hope for all of us.

I don’t either, I went to Polynesia and threw it in a volcano....all good now.

Post of the day!


Oops, I was wrong... we have a new champion!

Btw, just so you know, your contractual and FAR limits are determined prior to the start of the duty period.

The “extension” is literally an extension to the FAR limit.

With all that red highlighting you missed the word disproportate.

I completely agree that the highest risk flights are the first flight of the day with the CA as PF.

I asked a ski instructor why accidents always happen on the last run of the day. He said that it just becomes the last run. ;)