B767 300 pay
 

I remember hearing we didn't get wide body pay ONLY because the 767 300 was supposed to go away in the original merged contract.

Some questions.........

1. Once we found out in the contract extension that the 767 300 didn't go away why didn't we fix the rate to a wide body rate?

2. I understand we are in the process of getting some Hawiian Airlines 300's. Doesn't that indicate the airplane isn't going away in any sort of immediate time-frame?

3. The 767 300 is a wide body. It weighs 410K pounds at take off and ATC calls it a heavy. How exactly did this get screwed up? Wasn't it fairly obvious the aircraft should pay wide body pay?

4. It flies 10 to 11 hour routine flights from USA to Europe, to Hawaii, and to deep South America. Sort of what the 777 does, and the 787 does. Only difference is 767 300 pilots don't have a fancy bunk. That alone should get them more pay....(ha).

5. The load of the 767 300 and the 787 is fairly similar. Again, I don't get it. Same mission, same load capacity..... Relief pilots, the whole shmear. What's up Negotiating Committee?

6. Where are we at in this contract as it relates to 767 300 pay?

One legacy demanded the pay rates in such a way to support an SLI argument. That answers most of those questions.

Not really. It's what the airplane does. It's the mission. It's our current situation.

The 767 300 has always been a widebody. Seems it was on Legacy UAL property a long time before the merger was ever considered or announced. It's always been a wide body since the early 1980's when the jet was conceived.

I actually heard that very issue is getting fixed! By bringing the 767-400 rates down to non WB. Oh wait, that’s not a fix.:rolleyes: That will create movement if that were to happen. :cool:

That may or may not be true, but I think AA and DL have the 767-300 in pretty much the same pay category we do. Not saying it's correct, just pointing it out.

the 757 and 767 were the same group at LUAL.

Every aircraft type had different pay rates (the 747-400 being the highest) except the 757/767 and guppies. 319/320 had same rate, so did the 737-300/500s. The 737-200 was the lowest when I got here.

I heard the “it’s going away argument”directly from a negotiator at a road show. What ever the reason we had a chance to fix it and it wasn’t fixed. I have also heard the “that’s how delta pays it” argument from line pukes.

Off to nap for my 9+ hour flight carrying 200+ pax for narrowbody pay.

I have to ask, how do DAL and AA compare on the 767-300 to our rates. I don’t know but suspect there’s a similarity.

Lee

Or:

One legacy carrier paid it at the proper widebody rate pre-merger while the other did not. I'll let you fill in the blanks with that but as a hint, the proper paying carrier started with a "C" and ended with a "AL".

China airlines?