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Originally Posted by baseball
(Post 2658792)
Well we don't have either the 380 or the 747 on property....
But, the 777, 767-400, and 787 all seem to pay the same per hour, NO?...…. How can you say an AC that comes in at less than half the weight of the 747 that we had when contract was signed should pay the same? 767-400 paid the same as a 747 and 777, ridiculous. not all wide bodies are equal, and the same is true for narrow bodies. Are you fighting for those too to all pay the same rate? the 757 pays the same as a guppy and what a C100? |
Originally Posted by fadec
(Post 2658789)
The A380 is going away...
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Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
(Post 2658766)
No, JB...
Although JP was pretty bad as well. |
Originally Posted by O2pilot
(Post 2658448)
One legacy demanded the pay rates in such a way to support an SLI argument. That answers most of those questions.
JB/JP represented that legacy that started with C and wasn’t China Airlines. |
Our pay banding the way it is currently constructed is asinine. The 767-400 should not pay what a 777 pays (definitely not the 747). I think airplanes should be tiered this way.
1. 777-300 (747-8 should also be included) 2. 777-200, 787-10 & -9, and 767-400 3. 767-300, 787-8 4. 757, Guppy Maximus -10 5. Fifi, Guppy Just my $0.02 |
Originally Posted by DashTrash
(Post 2658996)
Our pay banding the way it is currently constructed is asinine. The 767-400 should not pay what a 777 pays (definitely not the 747). I think airplanes should be tiered this way.
1. 777-300 (747-8 should also be included) 2. 777-200, 787-10 & -9, and 767-400 3. 767-300, 787-8 4. 757, Guppy Maximus -10 5. Fifi, Guppy Just my $0.02 |
I’m glad to see mostly people see how dumb it is that the 767-400 is banded at the highest pay band.
I don’t see the issue in “bringing down the 767-400” as long as it “brings up” the rate for the 757 and 767-300. If we have 5x as many 757/767-300 as we do 767-400, then I would be happy bringing up the 757/767 rate $1 for every $5 we bring down the 767-400 until the pay rates converge. Overall pilot compensation stays the same. That’s what we care about. Keep paybanding simple. 737 and Airbus 320 series 757 and 767 777 and 787 Less time pilots have to spend in training. Less money the company has to spend on training. More profit for our profit sharing checks. More profit that gives us leverage for a stronger contract overall. |
Originally Posted by iahflyr
(Post 2659044)
I’m glad to see mostly people see how dumb it is that the 767-400 is banded at the highest pay band.
I don’t see the issue in “bringing down the 767-400” as long as it “brings up” the rate for the 757 and 767-300. If we have 5x as many 757/767-300 as we do 767-400, then I would be happy bringing up the 757/767 rate $1 for every $5 we bring down the 767-400 until the pay rates converge. Overall pilot compensation stays the same. That’s what we care about. Keep paybanding simple. 737 and Airbus 320 series 757 and 767 777 and 787 Less time pilots have to spend in training. Less money the company has to spend on training. More profit for our profit sharing checks. More profit that gives us leverage for a stronger contract overall. |
Originally Posted by Grumble
(Post 2659030)
Congrats, you just gave 95% of the pilots here a pay cut. Keep you two cents to yourself.
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Are the 767-300 and 767-400 in the same bid category or are they separate?
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