Night time domestic freight was definitely not for me. Sitting through the sort and then going back out was brutal and I could never adjust. I don’t do South America trips for the same reasons, I don’t recover well. Day time or international freight is a beautiful thing though. Flying passengers is often a PITA. With freight you don’t have to deal with passengers, flight attendants, making PA’s every time there is a bump, etc. They just close the door and you only have to fly the airplane, not deal with drama. Our heavy crews have found out how good freight only flying is and don’t want it to end. If it were possible to transfer my current seniority over to FedEx or UPS and fly daytime domestic or heavy international to Europe or Asia, I’d be gone tomorrow. Being that it’s not, I’ll bid what I want to fly here and be grateful for a pretty good job.

 

We have plenty of pilots here at UAL that are better suited for a freight operation. No PA’s when necessary and walk on/off the plane without even acknowledging our passengers, especially young kids who are still enthralled with flying. I wish we could trade these pilots to UPS/FEDEX for the portion of pilots they have that wanted to fly passengers.

 

No, I was talking about FX, I’d rather go to UPS if I had to, you know back in the day when 4500 of us were going to be furloughed and the only option on planet earth was to fly boxes. So Yeah… I would have preferred UPS over FX.
Funny how you still have to come to a UAL forum to talk wonders about FX… I don’t see it the other way around.

 

The only pilots I hear talking about bad culture are the IPA pilots when referring to their treatment from management. You can read their complaints on the FDX forum and probably their forum.

 

Don’t think I’ll be at the FDX forum any time soon… not interested thank you.
Union talk about management? Yeah, I’ll bet it’ll be pretty friendly…

 

I’m not sure how a JB to UAL guy would know anything about FedEx culture.

I worked at UAL and now FDX. Our cultures are very similar— like most major airlines. We all have the same kinds of people. 99% good dudes/dudettes. And for the most part, we don’t want to burn the company to the ground.

From talking to buddies at Brown, their pilot/management relationship is very adversarial. Lots of non-seniority list managers, LCA, chief pilots, etc. They fight for everything they have. Their union culture, however, is top notch. It needs to be.

 

Man I wish you all well at FX trust me when I say that, I have friends there and I want it nothing but success.
I am just saying what I hear from them. FX is just not for everyone, I don’t see the need to come to a UAL forum to advertise FX like it is heavens… believe me when I say they don’t need any help recruiting pilots, it is still a very well sought after pilot career. Just not my cup of tea.
To the OP, when I read his post history looks like he is holding a grudge against UAL. Like I say to my friends at FX, we are hiring and you can still have a decent career at UAL if that’s what you want. Or, you can stay there and be miserable… either way. Good luck!

 

We aren't advertising, just correcting your misinformation. I'm here making sure 3 of my United buddies that reached out to me are getting correct info on making a decision the OP initially asked about.

 

Well, based on your post history I don’t think your “United buddies” would take your comments as informative nor positive, you seriously have a grudge, I would recommend applying again and who knows you might get it this time…
Like I said, good luck!

 

Never wanted to go to United so I never applied. I was brought here by them when they asked about this thread, so I wanted to see what was being said.