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Old 11-27-2018 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Prettywhacked1
YoNited definitely prefers other criteria (gender, economic locale, Palm Springs crowd) over education, so I’d say it’s not enhancing your chances there.

DAL and Fedex put a premium on baccalaureate endeavors and military service. YoNited? Not so much.

Good luck.
This person has no idea what they are talking about.

Thomas Edison will be the fastest way to a degree. UVU is good and cheaper than ERAU. Degreeforums.net will be helpful.

Keep in mind, most posters on here got hired 10-25 years ago and have no connection to the hiring process
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Old 11-27-2018 | 11:42 AM
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Of course you are right. Only people lacking a degree will think about if they can get hired in the future without one. That’s why I ask if the shortage of pilots will make legacies consider pilots without a degree. I know they don’t want to, but eventually have to ( in a couple of years, not now).
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Old 11-27-2018 | 12:24 PM
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It can't hurt to submit your app now. Right?



Good luck.
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Old 11-27-2018 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by McNugent
Get the bachelors. Don’t waste your time and money with the associates.

My buddy did an online degree through these guys, if you want to stay in the aviation lane. He seemed pretty happy with it.

https://uvu.edu/aviation/degrees/index.html
Same. Got my 4 year degree in 3.5 years all online at home and on layovers.

Graduated December 2015. Interviewed December 2016.
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Old 11-27-2018 | 12:52 PM
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Had my resume literally walked in by a retired Chief pilot I flew with after he retired (he made an appointment with the guy in charge of hiring, he knew him from when they worked together), 6K+ TT, 6K+ turbine Mel, 3K TPIC, 10 internal LoR. 4 types, FAA & JAA ATP, no failure/DUI. No interview and no 4 year degree, you do the math. Don't think it's fair, don't think it's going to change....
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Old 11-27-2018 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Had my resume literally walked in by a retired Chief pilot I flew with after he retired (he made an appointment with the guy in charge of hiring, he knew him from when they worked together), 6K+ TT, 6K+ turbine Mel, 3K TPIC, 10 internal LoR. 4 types, FAA & JAA ATP, no failure/DUI. No interview and no 4 year degree, you do the math. Don't think it's fair, don't think it's going to change....
Same story with a relative of mine. 10,000+ hours, LCA, 737 and A320 types, Distressed former ALPA, internal recs, etc.

Everything you want from a candidate except 4 year degree = no interview.
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Old 11-27-2018 | 02:11 PM
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You are definitely right that you’ll need to pursue a 4 year bachelors degree if you want a shot at United.
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Old 11-27-2018 | 02:14 PM
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..if you're an ALPA member, go the TESU route.

I'm doing it as we speak.

TESU offer a few classes through sophia.org and they are discounted if you're an ALPA member. Those can be done fairly rapidly.

In addition the SOPHIA classes you can also test out of some classes which will expedite the degree program.

Your pilot license and ratings might allow them to give you close to 40 credits towards your Bachelor Degree.

Email this guy for questions and help. He is the Assistant Dean at the School of Applied Science and Technology

[email protected]
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Old 11-27-2018 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ducttape

I just think the antiquated advice of "get a degree in something besides aviation" really is not relevant any longer, because a BA in something without experience will pay nothing as well.
Not entirely true. There is a shortage of STEM professionals, so a technical degree should get you at least entry-level employment somewhere... and the compensation will ramp up quickly if you're capable and motivated. Employers will take a chance to hopefully land a solid technical employee.

Also accounting doesn't really change too much over time, so you could dust that off quickly even years later.

I think for a pilot you want to go one of two ways. Either a solid technical degree, (probably needs to be in residence) or a minimalist online degree... cheap, easy, and fast. The former will provide an occupational backup, the later will just punch the career ticket.

I'm talking about working adults. If you're a kid, go to a normal college, have fun, and try to learn some stuff.
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Old 11-27-2018 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Had my resume literally walked in by a retired Chief pilot I flew with after he retired (he made an appointment with the guy in charge of hiring, he knew him from when they worked together), 6K+ TT, 6K+ turbine Mel, 3K TPIC, 10 internal LoR. 4 types, FAA & JAA ATP, no failure/DUI. No interview and no 4 year degree, you do the math. Don't think it's fair, don't think it's going to change....
You can change it, go knock out an online degree.

If you wait long enough, it might change due to shortage but I think at this point you could get hired faster by doing a degree.
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