Good afternoon,

My application for United is going in reasonably soon but I know with 6000 hours 737 and 777 but without a degree I'm not competitive. For which kind of degree will you start getting credit? Bachelor, master, 2 year, 4 year etc etc..

Looking to start getting some credit but on a budget, and mostly time constraint. I fly long haul so I have time enough on layover to put in all the work. Would be great if if you could give some suggestions for 2/4 year degrees that wont break my bank to an insane degree (pun intended)

Regards,

Seb

 

If you’re going to put the time and money in, get something you’ll be happy with and able to fall back on, not just a check-the-box degree. If you ever need it (lost medical, industry downturn, robot overlords usurp all pilot jobs) you’ll be glad you have it.

State schools are almost always cheaper than private and pretty indistinguishable from each other. Since you aren’t interested in pursuing an elite degree, just avoid the bottom tier, not worth the paper they’re published on types like UoP, Trident, etc. Stay away from any school that’s had accreditation issues in the recent past.

I think US News and Money magazines put out college rankings (with price tags) annually, probably a good place to start.


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Get the bachelors. Don’t waste your time and money with the associates.

My buddy did an online degree through these guys, if you want to stay in the aviation lane. He seemed pretty happy with it.

https://uvu.edu/aviation/degrees/index.html

 

Seb,

Several universities will give you significant credits towards a degree for your ATP and Type Ratings. I know ERAU (Embry Riddle Aeronautical University) used to give up to 60 credit hours (it takes roughly 120 to get a 4 year BS degree)for an ATP. I’m not sure what the max they allow is today but I know it’s something. I’m guessing that several of the other fly boy universities do the same.

That would probably be your quickest path to a 4 year degree. For a guy in your situation. I do not agree with starting at ground zero just to get a degree in something you’ll most likely never use. I did exactly what I recommended above at ERAU. It took me 5 semesters to finish up my BS degree with some additional credits (17) from a state school previously.

(I must have been typing at the same time as McNugget) same type of program different school.

 

a 4 year degree is turning as worthless as a high school degree 10 years ago.

So having a 4 year degree in "business" or "psychology", without any experience in the field, is as useless as an aviation degree outside of aviation.

Lets fact it. If you are a pilot, put some years in, and leave the industry, you are taking a big pay cut with whatever route you choose for the next adventure. The good news is with LTD own occupation, losing your medical will not be the death blow it was a time ago.

I just think the antiquated advice of "get a degree in something besides aviation" really is not relevant any longer, because a BA in something without experience will pay nothing as well.

Speed equals seniority. Get a degree in aviation, you can get it the quickest, and get on with the airline. You will be much better off getting hired at UAL 2 years earlier with a degree in aviation vs 4 years from now with a degree in "business"

 

I've flown with a number of guys that earned an online degree from Thomas Edison University.
https://www.tesu.edu/
Best of luck

 

Apply now. 6000 hours in transport airplanes is all the qualification you need. However, my opinion is far in the minority and United PR will be the ultimate arbiter of what you need. I'd rather fly with you than a guy with a brand new degree and minimal experience in 121 and Intl ops. Now to be fair, there are tons of guys with similar quals AND a degree so you'll be lower in the stack than they are. But, that stack is shrinking fast and your Boeing time will make your resume more buoyant as it shrinks.

Apply now and get started on something that you can show them at the interview which shows them that you're willing to do whatever it takes, even if its not a "normal" progression. It works.

Just one guys opinion.

 

YoNited definitely prefers other criteria (gender, economic locale, Palm Springs crowd) over education, so I’d say it’s not enhancing your chances there.

DAL and Fedex put a premium on baccalaureate endeavors and military service. YoNited? Not so much.

Good luck.

 

Don’t you guys think, that by the time he finishes his Bachelors the pilot shortage will hit the legacies as well? I understand that right now only the Regionals are hurting for pilots and that the legacies still have enough applicants. But how is it gonna look like in 2/3 years? An HR lady from AA told me at OBAP, AA had around 5000 qualified applications. But with all the big six hiring, when are those 5000 pilots being hired into a legacy? I don’t think it will be more than 2 years. Wouldn’t the legacies not take a look at an experienced pilot even without a degree? Is it not better to save the money for the degree and wait those 2/3 years until he would finish his degree anyway? I assume while he works for his degree, they would not call him, until he finishes? So he wouldn’t get hired in the next 2/3 years anyway. And by that time, even if the legacies don’t want to, they have to consider experienced pilots without a degree. Or are people getting hired already now without a degree? What are your thoughts?

 

No disrespect, but 99% of the time I hear someone say that, it’s because they don’t have the degree and hope the degree requirement will go away.

Hoping you don’t need a degree in 4 years, so not getting one, and guessing wrong? How does that work out for you? Not so good.