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Sniper66 12-02-2018 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2717878)
I'm curious, is there another raise scheduled for 2020 and again in 2021? Because I am just that skeptronic.




A five year extension with 4 percent increases annually
Will be accepted with 75% yes voters

tkt96 12-02-2018 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 2717892)
A five year extension with 4 percent increases annually
Will be accepted with 75% yes voters

With the cave on JV widebody scope it will only pass by 55%

Sniper66 12-02-2018 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by tkt96 (Post 2717895)
With the cave on JV widebody scope it will only pass by 55%



No JV or scope change obviously
Any changes to that it will fail miserably

Yak02 12-02-2018 04:29 PM

If history repeats its self again, which more than likely it will.

By next summer we will have an LOA or an announcement from ALPA that this will become a Concessionary Contract.

I have 4 years to go. I am not planning on seeing a Ratification Ballot.

Yes, I am entering my 6th decade of living under an ALPA Pilot household.

Fly Safe Do the Right Thing

Flytolive 12-02-2018 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2717878)
I'm curious, is there another raise scheduled for 2020 and again in 2021?

No more pay raises after the 1/1/19 4% raise.

oldmako 12-02-2018 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by Flytolive (Post 2717976)
No more pay raises after the 1/1/19 4% raise.

I actually knew that. I just wanted to get it out there because it was a stupid thing to agree to. Again.

Flytolive 12-02-2018 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2717984)
I actually knew that. I just wanted to get it out there because it was a stupid thing to agree to. Again.

Actually, I cannot remember another pilot contract that had a pay raise within a month of the amendable date, and that 'me too' clause with DAL was also a bit out of the box not to mention lucrative.

Airhoss 12-02-2018 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2717984)
I actually knew that. I just wanted to get it out there because it was a stupid thing to agree to. Again.

Better than even money that an extension is exactly what happens.

Freddriver5 12-02-2018 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2717984)
I actually knew that. I just wanted to get it out there because it was a stupid thing to agree to. Again.

Pretty tone deaf, James. The TA fixed LOA 25. I know it didn't affect you, but it was a huge debt owed to the double furloughees, especially after the ISL screw job. It also had the snap up, which is padding your 401k as we speak.

Do I think another TA is a good idea? No. Being a revisionist in light of what the TA gave to the majority of the pilot group makes you, as I said, tone deaf.

You should feel good, James, we know that you could.

HuggyU2 12-02-2018 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by STXDrew (Post 2717868)
The post is in reference to the book “All Quiet on the Weatern Front”. Novel is about WW1; mustard gas etc

I'm well aware of the reference.


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