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Airway 12-03-2018 11:06 AM

Blows my mind that anyone could look back in retrospect and think the extension was a bad idea.

ugleeual 12-03-2018 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by Airway (Post 2718308)
Blows my mind that anyone could look back in retrospect and think the extension was a bad idea.

Amen.........

oldmako 12-03-2018 12:24 PM

What fun would this place be without the occasional turd thrown in to the punch bowl?? Geez. :)

757Driver 12-03-2018 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by Freddriver5 (Post 2718243)
The TA was a get for EVERY pilot. It was a financial olive branch after a dirtbag CEO and was rightfully grabbed as it improved everyone's situation AND provided peace while the new CEO attempted to unJeff the company.

As far as LOA25, it was a dirty deal from the outset and I won't debate you on the merits as it falls on myopic ears.

Guess your myopia outshines mine. If you look real close, you'll see me mentioning that you guys deserved to have that fixed way before it was addressed in the TA. Guess reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Funnily you have no comment as to the plight of the CAL furloughees who still travel at reduced seniority. Guess the ladder's been pulled up regarding that and you wouldn't dream of helping them out.

Never been a fan of TA's in lieu of complete contracts and I guess we're all ok hoping that Delta takes the industry a notch higher so we can coattail on them.

757Driver 12-03-2018 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by aileronjam (Post 2718236)
More than a few UAL furloughees WERE placed behind all "active pilots" at the snapshot date... not to mention behind most of the CAL furloughees as well.

As I said above, in the not to distant past ALL furlougees were lumped together behind ALL of the active Pilots as of the date of the merger. Had that happened here there'd be a boatload more UAL types at the very bottom of the list.

Guess that's something to be grateful for, right?

Knotcher 12-03-2018 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 2718383)
Guess your myopia outshines mine. If you look real close, you'll see me mentioning that you guys deserved to have that fixed way before it was addressed in the TA. Guess reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Funnily you have no comment as to the plight of the CAL furloughees who still travel at reduced seniority. Guess the ladder's been pulled up regarding that and you wouldn't dream of helping them out.

Never been a fan of TA's in lieu of complete contracts and I guess we're all ok hoping that Delta takes the industry a notch higher so we can coattail on them.

To hell with anyone else’s plight, they are too busy crying about their own as they head down the jetway ahead of people hired before them.

O2pilot 12-03-2018 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 2718383)
Funnily you have no comment as to the plight of the CAL furloughees who still travel at reduced seniority. Guess the ladder's been pulled up regarding that and you wouldn't dream of helping them out.

Oh the plight!

O2pilot 12-03-2018 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Knotcher (Post 2718423)
To hell with anyone else’s plight, they are too busy crying about their own as they head down the jetway ahead of people hired before them.

But they have no problem bidding equipment and lines ahead of people hired before them!

Knotcher 12-03-2018 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by O2pilot (Post 2718462)
But they have no problem bidding equipment and lines ahead of people hired before them!

Bidding is done in accordance with seniority, not DOH.

Pass travel is DOH and applies to everyone at the company. But two different sets of rules are being used to the detriment of one group. But hey why should you care, right?

UALinIAH 12-03-2018 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 2718383)
Funnily you have no comment as to the plight of the CAL furloughees who still travel at reduced seniority. Guess the ladder's been pulled up regarding that and you wouldn't dream of helping them out.

I love when guys throw that misconception out. It’s an apples to oranges argument.

CAL furloughees were treated in accordance with their sCAL contract. While I have no problem adjusting EVERYONE’s travel to be their MAINLINE hire date, it’ll never happen because there are still tons of people who are making out getting their COEX DOH for travel. If we are going to reinvent the travel wheel for furloughees, then it has to apply to EVERYONE. Not a carve out for those few.

It was a carve out that LOA 25 created. Why do you support making a new carveout?


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