The wheel won't be a wheel. It'l be a rhombus. No way to do it.

Many, and I mean many COEX pilots while placed at COEX, were actually hired by CAL because they actually had the flight time to fly in the left seat. So, DOH for many, and I mean many COEX pilots is perfectly fair. Many, and I mean many CAL flight engineers didn't have an ATP. They went to mainline. If you had an ATP, CAL assigned you to COEX to fly as a Captain. No way to reinvent the wheel, the square, or the parallelogram.

Post 1994, I would agree with you. pre 1994 I would not.

Back to the original topic. We won’t see anything for years to come.

I disagree. The company needs to solve the RJ issue. They already have all they need to do it now, but they, or Kirby, don't think so. It will take time for them to come to the realization. The more time they take, the farther we fall behind Delta. But I do think they will eventually realize it. Later than sooner. I think in the next year; however after our target of the amenable date.

Kirby is the stumbling block. He needs to stop and pop his head up out of his gopher hole. And....Delta keeps pulling father ahead of us in lots of ways.

Even if they come to the realization this next year, the availability of airframes is dwindling. Time is on our side. Unless we want a SuperJet, or Comac--please not!

Only if this MEC and pilot group allow it. Oscar wanted a deal before the end of Jan. Hold his feet to the fire. They agreed to not leak information out. That will only go so far. We can sing around the camp fire all they want. Sooner or later this entire group hug is coming to an end.

I don't remember that. What are you talking about?

If you're referring to date of merger as the date of announcement of the merger, I agree. Otherwise, please cite an arbitrated ISL based on completion of merger date.

Kirby's been around this business for a very long time. I very much doubt he's blind to the regional RJ's coming demise - if he is, then he needs to be kicked to the curb. My personal opinion (worth exactly zero) is that he's speaking of the need for more regional RJs publicly in order to distract us while he gets what he wants on other parts of the contract. Such as NSNB rates. And I'm sure there are other areas that he's targeting - I will admit that I don't know what they are, but I view scope as Kirby's version of a magician trying to redirect the crowd's attention to a shiny distraction.

Outsourcing widebody flying would be the golden ring for him.

The RJ issue has been solved. The answer on that is status quo. I believe Hall and Oates said it best.....I can't go for that....No--o-ooo. I can't go for that....No--o-ooo. No can do.

You mean like re-inventing that Aer Lingus scheme?