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Old 12-02-2018 | 01:23 PM
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I'm curious, is there another raise scheduled for 2020 and again in 2021? Because I am just that skeptronic.



A five year extension with 4 percent increases annually
Will be accepted with 75% yes voters
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Old 12-02-2018 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
A five year extension with 4 percent increases annually
Will be accepted with 75% yes voters
With the cave on JV widebody scope it will only pass by 55%
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Old 12-02-2018 | 02:06 PM
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With the cave on JV widebody scope it will only pass by 55%


No JV or scope change obviously
Any changes to that it will fail miserably
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Old 12-02-2018 | 04:29 PM
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If history repeats its self again, which more than likely it will.

By next summer we will have an LOA or an announcement from ALPA that this will become a Concessionary Contract.

I have 4 years to go. I am not planning on seeing a Ratification Ballot.

Yes, I am entering my 6th decade of living under an ALPA Pilot household.

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Old 12-02-2018 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
I'm curious, is there another raise scheduled for 2020 and again in 2021?
No more pay raises after the 1/1/19 4% raise.
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Old 12-02-2018 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Flytolive
No more pay raises after the 1/1/19 4% raise.
I actually knew that. I just wanted to get it out there because it was a stupid thing to agree to. Again.
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Old 12-02-2018 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
I actually knew that. I just wanted to get it out there because it was a stupid thing to agree to. Again.
Actually, I cannot remember another pilot contract that had a pay raise within a month of the amendable date, and that 'me too' clause with DAL was also a bit out of the box not to mention lucrative.
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Old 12-02-2018 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
I actually knew that. I just wanted to get it out there because it was a stupid thing to agree to. Again.
Better than even money that an extension is exactly what happens.
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Old 12-02-2018 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
I actually knew that. I just wanted to get it out there because it was a stupid thing to agree to. Again.
Pretty tone deaf, James. The TA fixed LOA 25. I know it didn't affect you, but it was a huge debt owed to the double furloughees, especially after the ISL screw job. It also had the snap up, which is padding your 401k as we speak.

Do I think another TA is a good idea? No. Being a revisionist in light of what the TA gave to the majority of the pilot group makes you, as I said, tone deaf.

You should feel good, James, we know that you could.
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Old 12-02-2018 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by STXDrew
The post is in reference to the book “All Quiet on the Weatern Front”. Novel is about WW1; mustard gas etc
I'm well aware of the reference.
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