All quiet on the Wacker front.
12-02-2018, 08:47 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by STXDrew
The post is in reference to the book “All Quiet on the Weatern Front”. Novel is about WW1; mustard gas etc
I realized that promptly after I started reading the thread. But before that, based on only the title, I had assumed it was that someone at United was rejoicing that nobody had been RECENTLY arrested for doing the full monty in a hotel window in Denver.
12-03-2018, 05:50 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by Freddriver5
Pretty tone deaf, James. The TA fixed LOA 25. I know it didn't affect you, but it was a huge debt owed to the double furloughees, especially after the ISL screw job. It also had the snap up, which is padding your 401k as we speak.
Do I think another TA is a good idea? No. Being a revisionist in light of what the TA gave to the majority of the pilot group makes you, as I said, tone deaf.
You should feel good, James, we know that you could.
Do I think another TA is a good idea? No. Being a revisionist in light of what the TA gave to the majority of the pilot group makes you, as I said, tone deaf.
You should feel good, James, we know that you could.
12-03-2018, 07:01 AM
#24
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Originally Posted by DashTrash
I don’t think that an extension gets ratified. I think that 50% + 1 is done with the money grabs because we have serious things that need to change. Plus, management wants things too.
Throw some more money, fix long call reserve, vacation/training pay, and tweak the retirement to the plus side and it will pass easily. Keeping the Delta "me too" clause would cinch it.
12-03-2018, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DashTrash
I don’t think that an extension gets ratified. I think that 50% + 1 is done with the money grabs because we have serious things that need to change. Plus, management wants things too.
I'm impressed with the lack of leaks from negotiations.
12-03-2018, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Freddriver5
Pretty tone deaf, James. The TA fixed LOA 25. I know it didn't affect you, but it was a huge debt owed to the double furloughees, especially after the ISL screw job. It also had the snap up, which is padding your 401k as we speak.
Do I think another TA is a good idea? No. Being a revisionist in light of what the TA gave to the majority of the pilot group makes you, as I said, tone deaf.
You should feel good, James, we know that you could.
Do I think another TA is a good idea? No. Being a revisionist in light of what the TA gave to the majority of the pilot group makes you, as I said, tone deaf.
You should feel good, James, we know that you could.
TA's are a bad idea period. You guys deserved to have those fixes way before that so don't pounce on me too hard as being insensitive. Hows about a TA that helps the CAL 147 guys and gals regain their pass travel seniority or is that not as important as UAL's LOA 25?
As for the ISL screw job, in the not too distant past all furloughees were placed behind all active Pilots at the date of merger so there's that to be thankful for.
12-03-2018, 09:05 AM
#28
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
As for the ISL screw job, in the not too distant past all furloughees were placed behind all active Pilots at the date of merger so there's that to be thankful for.
12-03-2018, 09:19 AM
#29
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
So a TA was ok as long as it helped you out, is that what I'm reading?
TA's are a bad idea period. You guys deserved to have those fixes way before that so don't pounce on me too hard as being insensitive. Hows about a TA that helps the CAL 147 guys and gals regain their pass travel seniority or is that not as important as UAL's LOA 25?
As for the ISL screw job, in the not too distant past all furloughees were placed behind all active Pilots at the date of merger so there's that to be thankful for.
TA's are a bad idea period. You guys deserved to have those fixes way before that so don't pounce on me too hard as being insensitive. Hows about a TA that helps the CAL 147 guys and gals regain their pass travel seniority or is that not as important as UAL's LOA 25?
As for the ISL screw job, in the not too distant past all furloughees were placed behind all active Pilots at the date of merger so there's that to be thankful for.
As far as LOA25, it was a dirty deal from the outset and I won't debate you on the merits as it falls on myopic ears.
12-03-2018, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
Agreed. Neither the NC nor the company are working on a simple contract extension.
I'm impressed with the lack of leaks from negotiations.
I'm impressed with the lack of leaks from negotiations.
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