All quiet on the Wacker front.
12-02-2018 | 08:47 PM
#21
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I realized that promptly after I started reading the thread. But before that, based on only the title, I had assumed it was that someone at United was rejoicing that nobody had been RECENTLY arrested for doing the full monty in a hotel window in Denver.
12-03-2018 | 05:50 AM
#22
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From: B-737 Captain
Pretty tone deaf, James. The TA fixed LOA 25. I know it didn't affect you, but it was a huge debt owed to the double furloughees, especially after the ISL screw job. It also had the snap up, which is padding your 401k as we speak.
Do I think another TA is a good idea? No. Being a revisionist in light of what the TA gave to the majority of the pilot group makes you, as I said, tone deaf.
You should feel good, James, we know that you could.
Do I think another TA is a good idea? No. Being a revisionist in light of what the TA gave to the majority of the pilot group makes you, as I said, tone deaf.
You should feel good, James, we know that you could.
12-03-2018 | 07:01 AM
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Throw some more money, fix long call reserve, vacation/training pay, and tweak the retirement to the plus side and it will pass easily. Keeping the Delta "me too" clause would cinch it.
12-03-2018 | 07:40 AM
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From: guppy CA
I'm impressed with the lack of leaks from negotiations.
12-03-2018 | 08:32 AM
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Pretty tone deaf, James. The TA fixed LOA 25. I know it didn't affect you, but it was a huge debt owed to the double furloughees, especially after the ISL screw job. It also had the snap up, which is padding your 401k as we speak.
Do I think another TA is a good idea? No. Being a revisionist in light of what the TA gave to the majority of the pilot group makes you, as I said, tone deaf.
You should feel good, James, we know that you could.
Do I think another TA is a good idea? No. Being a revisionist in light of what the TA gave to the majority of the pilot group makes you, as I said, tone deaf.
You should feel good, James, we know that you could.
TA's are a bad idea period. You guys deserved to have those fixes way before that so don't pounce on me too hard as being insensitive. Hows about a TA that helps the CAL 147 guys and gals regain their pass travel seniority or is that not as important as UAL's LOA 25?
As for the ISL screw job, in the not too distant past all furloughees were placed behind all active Pilots at the date of merger so there's that to be thankful for.
12-03-2018 | 09:05 AM
#28
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From: It keeps changing.
More than a few UAL furloughees WERE placed behind all "active pilots" at the snapshot date... not to mention behind most of the CAL furloughees as well.
12-03-2018 | 09:19 AM
#29
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So a TA was ok as long as it helped you out, is that what I'm reading?
TA's are a bad idea period. You guys deserved to have those fixes way before that so don't pounce on me too hard as being insensitive. Hows about a TA that helps the CAL 147 guys and gals regain their pass travel seniority or is that not as important as UAL's LOA 25?
As for the ISL screw job, in the not too distant past all furloughees were placed behind all active Pilots at the date of merger so there's that to be thankful for.
TA's are a bad idea period. You guys deserved to have those fixes way before that so don't pounce on me too hard as being insensitive. Hows about a TA that helps the CAL 147 guys and gals regain their pass travel seniority or is that not as important as UAL's LOA 25?
As for the ISL screw job, in the not too distant past all furloughees were placed behind all active Pilots at the date of merger so there's that to be thankful for.
As far as LOA25, it was a dirty deal from the outset and I won't debate you on the merits as it falls on myopic ears.
12-03-2018 | 09:38 AM
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Agreed. I believe the negotiating protocol had both sides meeting around three weeks every month. Anyone know if they are still meeting that often?
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