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Old 01-19-2019 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by serce
I am non-minority male pilot trying to get hired at United. I am in my mid-thirties with 8,000 TT and 1,000 TPIC. I have clean record and high GPA from aviation University(wouldn't do it again). I have close to 20 internal recommendations on file and I have attended countless job fairs in the past 4 years but I have not been able to get the interview.

I am getting a little desperate since I am not getting any younger and I keep hearing that United is looking for more youthful pilots as years pass by. I am currently employed at JetBlue but I am considering going back to the regionals in order to take advantage of the CPP.

For those that went through the CPP or other similar programs and landed the job with United, what are your experiences and would you recommend it?
I would spend your time in other areas. For starters don’t leave JetBlue to chase the CPP. Spend your time volunteering for an organization. Get involved in JetBlues pilot recruiting. Do ALPA ASAP safety work. Help out your fellow JetBlue pilots any way you can; via ERC/pro stands or even the training department. United loves pilots who give back to their fellow community/peers. It show mindful commitment and mentoring.

Publish all of this service type stuff on your app and resume. This may sound repetitive but I think United is looking for the “total package” not just professional skill sets. I had a similar background as you did via spirit and all that soft stuff helped crack United for me and I had zero recs. Just my 2¢

Good luck!
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Old 01-19-2019 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ReadyRsv
Not to turn this into the NGPA thread, but leading with a reference to sex and race in the first sentence isn’t productive towards your goal. Over 90% of every UAL class is white males. United also hires people of every age.
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Back to the question: Make sure you have applied at more than one airline. For some reason people just don’t get called. Maybe you spelled your email address wrong. Maybe the computer doesn’t like xyz on your app. I have had friends with ONLY a UAL app in for years get called by FDX a week after putting in their app. They make lots of money now.

Best of luck.
I am only giving background information about myself. While most of new hires might be white males, the number of white male candidates is also the very high. My chances of getting the call as white male are somewhat smaller than minority candidate, simply due to the fact of being just one of many qualified candidates with similar background and qualifications.
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Old 01-19-2019 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Thank you for saying that much nicer than I would have (50 year old white male that never got interviewed by UA)
Like I stated above, I am merely painting a picture of who I am as candidate. The application does ask for your race and sex.
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Old 01-19-2019 | 09:03 AM
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I’m 40ish, 7000tt, almost 1000tpic, in the pool at JB.
Nine job fairs, two app reviews, update bi-weekly for all legacies, cargos, and SWA. Heavy international time. Solid GPA from an aviation 141 school, masters degree, multiple volunteer positions at my company, and outside of it.
I’ve spoken with two consulting firms. Both say, “keep at it, looks great!”
Years have gone by. JB is the ONLY major to have called.
I know the frustration, but I would NOT leave JB.
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Old 01-19-2019 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by serce
I am non-minority male pilot trying to get hired at United. I am in my mid-thirties with 8,000 TT and 1,000 TPIC. I have clean record and high GPA from aviation University(wouldn't do it again). I have close to 20 internal recommendations on file and I have attended countless job fairs in the past 4 years but I have not been able to get the interview.



I am getting a little desperate since I am not getting any younger and I keep hearing that United is looking for more youthful pilots as years pass by. I am currently employed at JetBlue but I am considering going back to the regionals in order to take advantage of the CPP.



For those that went through the CPP or other similar programs and landed the job with United, what are your experiences and would you recommend it?


If you can score a chief pilot rec, that’s about the only other thing I can think of. It’s a new year, maybe one of your united recs can get you a meet and greet with a chief pilot.

Good luck!


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Old 01-19-2019 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by serce
Like I stated above, I am merely painting a picture of who I am as candidate. The application does ask for your race and sex.
You are mistaken. The demographics survey is not included on the part the company uses for hiring. You don’t have to answer those questions
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Old 01-19-2019 | 10:03 AM
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You resume sounds pretty average with the exception that you are at JB vice a regional. It is about points. You are probably maxed out on job fairs, recs etc. Find other boxes to check...find something to separate yourself from the non-military pack. The entire applicant pool is doing job fairs and collecting recs. Are you a Chief Pilot, Director of Ops, Director of Safety? Have you tried to become a DPE? If you are a CFI have you asked to be able to use it on the outside to promote aviation with Young Eagles etc? Have you given anything back to the community or volunteered to represent your company or further their brand? Have you been recognized by your company for any specific accomplishments? Other than fly the line...how have you helped JB make money or increase their competitiveness?

I'm not suggesting that you haven't done the above...but it has to make it into the application. UAL wants to feel as though they already know who you are 100% from your application and the Hogan/Interview process is a confirmation check on what they have seen in the application.
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Old 01-19-2019 | 10:05 AM
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Additionally, what happens if you leave Jetblue for a CPP regional and you get unlucky with the Hogan or have a bad day in the interview? You’ve now given up a great career at a major airline and the earning potential and DC retirement that comes along with it.
I’d stay at JB and keep working hard towards your goal and to echo what others have said try to get involved in whatever capacity you can. If at the end of the day it just wasn’t meant to be at UA, you’re still going to have a great career at JB or any other major that might call you.
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Old 01-19-2019 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TogaParty
Additionally, what happens if you leave Jetblue for a CPP regional and you get unlucky with the Hogan or have a bad day in the interview?
Depending on which regional’s CPP, it means in 15 months he’ll get a second chance, as well as hoping for 2 OTS chances.
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Old 01-19-2019 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Depending on which regional’s CPP, it means in 15 months he’ll get a second chance, as well as hoping for 2 OTS chances.
Ok I didn’t know that. How long does it usually take for a new hire at one of these CPP airlines to go through the process and start at United?
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