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Originally Posted by Floyd
(Post 2757211)
Me thinks you're an angry legacy pilot. Get with the program you old codger. :D
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
(Post 2757205)
Was just thinking the same thing. Not sure how this toxic thinking has permeated our ranks, but it’s all too common. At some point, somebody has to be the first to break through the previous pay, work rules etc to lead the pack. If not, we’d never have successful pattern bargaining. It’s kinda like the ridiculous “pie is only x” and we have to decide how to divide it cuz that’s what management told us! Ummmm, nooooo. You need to EXPAND the pie👍👍👍
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Originally Posted by PDRit
(Post 2757230)
Out of curiosity do you do the same with your budget at home, just expand the pie?
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Originally Posted by guppie
(Post 2757224)
I would argue we've (ALPA) had incredibly successful pattern bargaining since the 2010 Delta contract. Expanding pay rates, trip rig, vacation, and training value. I expect that to continue.
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Originally Posted by PDRit
(Post 2757230)
Out of curiosity do you do the same with your budget at home, just expand the pie?
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
(Post 2757227)
Amen gentlemen. We're so busy salivating over what Delta will do next while we hide in the corner so we can "me too" ourselves into the stratosphere. Guess we're just too timid or stupid to the lead the industry under our own steam.
Originally Posted by Floyd
(Post 2757240)
Explain to me again how you pattern bargain thru contract extensions.
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Originally Posted by PDRit
(Post 2757230)
Out of curiosity do you do the same with your budget at home, just expand the pie?
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Originally Posted by guppie
(Post 2757129)
4% raise for 2019 thanks to the extension. I'm good for a year. Let the scope choke turn em blue. :cool:
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
(Post 2757254)
Poor analogy and clearly lacking much thought. A more accurate comparison would be to say my family budget is X. I want a car payment of no more than 400$ per month. Now, truth is, I can make 500$ work, but I want to pay as little as I can get away with. Same as management. They know full well that it’s gonna be more expensive than they initially propose, and it’s our job to ensure that they open the checkbook.
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Originally Posted by Flytolive
(Post 2757253)
Delta pilots vote no to TA1. Munoz tries to take a page from Delta's playbook by offering a favorable pilot contract extension with a Delta 'me too' clause. Delta pilots ratify a much better TA2 with significant pay raises that results in the same for United pilots.
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