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NFLUALNFL 02-06-2019 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2758111)
Actually the 700 doesn't usually have that problem.


My point was that mgt wants us to scrimp and save and then goes out and makes a decision which wastes far more money in order to end-run someting in our contract.

N6279P 02-06-2019 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2758142)
https://www.bombardier.com/en/media/...ardiercom.html


Bombardier just added them as new aircraft to the order book.

Nowhere on that link does it show a new aircraft order.

viperhawgdriver 02-06-2019 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by NFLUALNFL (Post 2758151)
My point was that mgt wants us to scrimp and save and then goes out and makes a decision which wastes far more money in order to end-run someting in our contract.

Nailed it. Couldn’t be said any better

RJDio 02-06-2019 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 2758101)
More premium seats attract more money. Do you know much about revenue management?

Keenly aware. So you eliminate 20 total seats and in the process add 4 premium seats. So now you make an inefficient airplane even more so (CASM).

How many of those extra 4 premium seats will be free upgrades? Only management will know the true gains (monetarily) or lack there of in the end.

navigatro 02-06-2019 10:09 AM

I sure hope they install larger overhead bins so you won't have to gate check a regular roll-a-board

sleeves 02-06-2019 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by RJDio (Post 2758177)
Keenly aware. So you eliminate 20 total seats and in the process add 4 premium seats. So now you make an inefficient airplane even more so (CASM).

How many of those extra 4 premium seats will be free upgrades? Only management will know the true gains (monetarily) or lack there of in the end.

Mgt. at LCAL used to say that most of the profits came from 10% of the passengers. The 20 seats that are being taken out were probably gonna be sold on Priceline for a pittance anyway.

Floyd 02-06-2019 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2758126)
What did you expect to happen, the 50 seater is still required in slotting restrictions at some airports. They just can't go away.

My comment was regarding the ability of a 70 seat jet configured with 50 seats to turn a profit. De-Rated engines and premium seats might not be enough lipstick.

Mesabah 02-06-2019 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by Floyd (Post 2758229)
My comment was regarding the ability of a 70 seat jet configured with 50 seats to turn a profit. De-Rated engines and premium seats might not be enough lipstick.

Yes, it would be more economical to operate 76 seaters at mainline to negate the scope issue, but you still need 50 seaters. So the only other option would be turboprops.

Photoflier 02-06-2019 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by NFLUALNFL (Post 2758106)
+1. Keep SE taxiing and roast the people in IAH with no APUs.

What’s wrong with SE taxiing?

spaaks 02-06-2019 11:29 AM

moving this discussion over from the UPA thread

I believe blowjet has 25 CRJ700's flying for united express, which United has to park on a 1-1 basis as the 175SC's show up to ExpressJet. GoJet, Mesa, Skywest are the only 3 that fly 700's for UAL, and they're not coming out of skywest's CPA. I'm sure Bombardier will design the cabin refresh program so they can refurbish old 700's to the CRJ550, see if the idea sticks before they start up the CRJ700 production line again, and then start selling new ones. CRJ900 is the only CRJ currently being produced. I guess we won't know for sure until UALPA makes a statement on exactly where the 70 seaters are being reduced from to accommodate the 175SC's for ExpressJet.

Maybe i'm in the minority, but I think the CRJ550 is actually a good idea (in limited quantity) because of all the premium seating. United could run one of these every hour or increase frequency between mainline flights between IAD/ORD/EWR & BOS/DCA (or any popular business route).

From the points guy article:

So far, the airline only confirmed that it’ll fly between Chicago (ORD) and Walmart’s headquarters in Bentonville, Arkansas (XNA). United is apparently losing out on business from Walmart employees and suppliers looking to fly in premium cabins — with more first-class seats on the way, XNA flyers will have an easier time booking premium-cabin United travel between Arkansas and Asia.

And the proof I can find so far they're used:

With 50 CRJ550s already ordered, and the potential to add more later, we’ll see them on many more routes out of Chicago, in addition to regional flights from other United hubs, including Newark (EWR) on the East Coast. Pending government approval, United’s regional jet operator GoJet is expected to begin flying the 550 by the second half of this year.

If you think Bombardier can certify, build, and deliver a brand new airplane in less than a year, i've got some oceanfront property in Nebraska for you :-)

https://thepointsguy.com/news/united-crj550/


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