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Originally Posted by sleeves (Post 2758185)

Mgt. at LCAL used to say that most of the profits came from 10% of the passengers. The 20 seats that are being taken out were probably gonna be sold on Priceline for a pittance anyway.

Was that pre-free domestic upgrades?

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Originally Posted by Photoflier (Post 2758245)

What’s wrong with SE taxiing?

Nothing. What's the point of saving money and potentially making pax uncomfortable if that money we save is wasted on things like this?

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Originally Posted by Ni hao (Post 2758039)

Oscar to Kirby: Dude how you going to get around scope!

Bahahahahaha:D you win the interwebs today

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Originally Posted by RJDio (Post 2758177)

Keenly aware. So you eliminate 20 total seats and in the process add 4 premium seats. So now you make an inefficient airplane even more so (CASM).

How many of those extra 4 premium seats will be free upgrades? Only management will know the true gains (monetarily) or lack there of in the end.

Another factor in the revenue equation comes into play when a passenger buys a first class ticket on an RJ that connects to a mainline flight. How do you assign revenue for two flights on one ticket price? It would be easy to show that RJ as a huge money maker.

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Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2758108)

It's a new airplane with, I assume a de-rated 700 engine, that might cushion the blow.

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Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2758120)

It's still a new plane from the factory, with a reduced weight certification.

Also, in the Bombardier press release, it says Delta is a customer as well???

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Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2758142)

https://www.bombardier.com/en/media/...ardiercom.html

Bombardier just added them as new aircraft to the order book.

I've got some oceanfront property in Nebraska with your name on it! If you think Bombardier can certify, build, and deliver 25 brand new CR7's by the end of 2019.........

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300790427.html
The new ten-year agreement between GoJet and United will go into effect with the introduction of the first CRJ550, with planned entry into service by the summer of 2019. The current target is to have 25 in service by year end and all 50 aircraft in service by summer of 2020.

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Originally Posted by Bluewaffle (Post 2758025)

Also taking economy seats out of the 319 and 320 and replacing them with premium seats. Here’s your SMNB. Clever way around current scope language, I’d say.

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Originally Posted by Floyd (Post 2758080)

I'd love to see the CASM for these things.

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Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 2758101)

More premium seats attract more money. Do you know much about revenue management?

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Originally Posted by viperhawgdriver (Post 2758110)

It’ll be mostly free upgrades anyway. Doubt it’s an undiscovered revenue source that only Kirby thought of. Face it, he’s desperate and this is the only move he’s got.

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Originally Posted by RJDio (Post 2758177)

I don't think they're going to be using these airframes on ORD-GRR. They're going to use them on business heavy markets where people (companies) actually pay up for a premium seat. Don't forget, it's not just the CRJ550. United is making a system wide push to add more premium seats. They're reducing seat counts/increasing premium seating on767-300's and ALL 319/320's

https://thepointsguy.com/news/united-crj550/

So far, the airline only confirmed that it’ll fly between Chicago (ORD) and Walmart’s headquarters in Bentonville, Arkansas (XNA). United is apparently losing out on business from Walmart employees and suppliers looking to fly in premium cabins — with more first-class seats on the way, XNA flyers will have an easier time booking premium-cabin United travel between Arkansas and Asia.

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Originally Posted by Floyd (Post 2758285)

Hence my second point. Only management will truly know the success of this endeavor. The numbers can be easily manipulated to show whatever they desire in terms or revenue.

Funny how you don’t see a bunch of start ups flying rj’s everyday. Let alone in this configuration.

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Originally Posted by RoyerYetlink (Post 2757974)

Get rid of one FA and pass the savings onto the pax!!

https://imgflip.com/i/2t0ywe

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Originally Posted by NFLUALNFL (Post 2758151)

My point was that mgt wants us to scrimp and save and then goes out and makes a decision which wastes far more money in order to end-run someting in our contract.

Breath new life into a legal airframe that connects premium passengers into a growing international market AND decreases capacity? Sounds like a win to me. I'm not sure how this is any way an end around as based on the news, it doesn't seem to violate scope.

UAL, instead of spending billions on new fleets for mainline, can feed the network with high yield passengers. I'd like to hear how this option is more expensive than the fly and buy mainline RJs.

If you ask me, if we're going to buy airplanes, make the high paying ones - which by the way we are.

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Originally Posted by sleeves (Post 2758185)

Mgt. at LCAL used to say that most of the profits came from 10% of the passengers. The 20 seats that are being taken out were probably gonna be sold on Priceline for a pittance anyway.

This guys does a pretty good job explaining premium yield.

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Originally Posted by RJDio (Post 2758302)

Point to point, it wouldn't make sense, but if you're chasing high yield business who is willing to pay for access to a global network, this seems to be the price of admission.