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golfn 02-22-2019 05:42 AM

So, I have training in March and I have 7 days of 22-02 sims, what do I do? Do I await the grievance or pdr knowing they will tell me it's legal?

Airhoss 02-22-2019 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by Otters (Post 2768370)
This is all being addressed with the association. Putting the details together. It is illegal as it violates 9-F-5. The pre build is building empty periods(referred to as slide periods) prior to schedules being given out. And 22-02 slots are given when no other times are available. Other periods are available.


As an instructor I PDR'ed this last year and was told to shut up and color by the association.

Setopbug 02-22-2019 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 2768299)
What the heck? And if I could use other words I would.

I’m advocating for the pilot group and arming them with facts of which few are aware and you attack me?

Let me ask why?

I’ll take a guess. . . you think I’m giving up secrets that are better left unsaid. Well you’re wrong.

No, you're not advocating for the pilot group. You're engaging in an "us vs. them" bit of warfare with your fellow aviators over where they came from.

You are empirically wrong in your assertion.

You are morally wrong to attempt to denigrate the trade unionism of your team members simply based on where they worked before.

People are able to read the "subtext" of your post. It's not a subtext at all, it's loud and clear and lacks anything resembling integrity or professionalism.

I'll say it again, more clearly so you can understand:

Shut your mouth about where I came from and what kind of trade unionist you wrongly imagine me to be.

Photoflier 02-22-2019 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 2768275)
Today with a third CAL guys and a third new guys, I fear the response from the pilot group will not be unified or appropriate. This is but one example that should be a slam dunk.

I'm a LUAL guy and this is totally inappropriate. Why in God's Green Earth would you write a message in which you preach the need to unify behind the contract and then take a dig at 2/3'rds of the people you are preaching to?

We are all on the same team here. And frankly, we are a MUCH stronger collective force than either pilot group could have hoped to be flying solo.

RomeoHotel 02-22-2019 05:00 PM

Classic Sunvox...

Half of me want to ignore your post’s and the other half can’t wait to see how you stick your foot in your mouth this time...

This one was hilarious..
Have you ever considered how your condescending attitude is perceived by others..

RomeoHotel 02-22-2019 05:01 PM

Classic Sunvox...

Half of me wants to ignore your post’s and the other half can’t wait to see how you stick your foot in your mouth this time...

This one was hilarious..
Have you ever considered how your condescending attitude is perceived by others..?

Bpcrate 02-22-2019 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by Photoflier (Post 2768729)
I'm a LUAL guy and this is totally inappropriate. Why in God's Green Earth would you write a message in which you preach the need to unify behind the contract and then take a dig at 2/3'rds of the people you are preaching to?



We are all on the same team here. And frankly, we are a MUCH stronger collective force than either pilot group could have hoped to be flying solo.



Because he’s an idiot. Just talk to his poor fo’s.


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757Driver 02-23-2019 06:23 AM

Guess my bleeped out, bad language cost me a post AND an infraction.:rolleyes:

I'll re-post the clean version and yes Joe, your pomposity knows no bounds.


As a weak-sister CAL guy I can only thank my lucky stars that Captain Joe Peck gets on her and tells us all how to behave as proper Unionists.

Your message was doomed from the get-go Joe due to your stupid little snipe. Don’t forget combined, we outnumber you supposed Unionists quite handily.

May I suggest next time you feel the need to preach to the masses, simply deliver the message sans the editorial comments?


GPullR 02-23-2019 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 2768275)
ALPA disagrees with your interpretation. It's being grieved, and I was just trying to help folks by arming them with the facts, and at the same time be subtle so as not to bring too much focus on ALPA.



The company is beginning to put the screws to the pilots, and 20 years ago my mentors taught me how to respond. Today with a third CAL guys and a third new guys, I fear the response from the pilot group will not be unified or appropriate. This is but one example that should be a slam dunk.

We are in contract negotiations, and Kirby is stepping up the pressure. How are YOU responding? Do you know your contract?

Who again rolled on scope???

pilotgolfer 02-23-2019 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by GPullR (Post 2769215)
Who again rolled on scope???

The guys that didn’t PFT? 😀😀😀

Bygones.


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