There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate incomplete data.

 

Money is one of the least important sections to me in the new contract. Work rules, reserve rules, vacation and training value, LTD, and scope are the things I’m interested in. Retro doesn’t touch any of that. So the longer we wait for a new contract, the longer we go without these critical improvements. And these all cost money.... money the company saves every day at OUR expense. So “patience” to me seems counter intuitive.

I’m certainly not suggesting we rush to a crappy contract. No no no. What I’m suggesting is we start putting pressure on the company to give us the deal we deserve NOW.

 

Oscar wanted a deal only if it came with scope relief. Once they found out that our position is firm this simply turned into the standard negotiations story that we always go through. We’re only a few months past the amendable date. The union has put out some progress reports. The guys on the line aren’t weak sheep, they’ve just watched this movie a few times before and can quote it line for line. Basically yes, we sit around and sing campfire songs, fly the contract, and let the negotiating committee do their job. The guys out there beating their chest wanting an end to single engine taxi, no picking up trips, or the slow down, we’ll show them attitude aren’t doing us any good. From an operational standpoint a couple of guys on a personal mission doesn’t even make a dent in the operation, and a large scale program would be illegal. This has always taken time to accomplish, it will this time, and however many more times we get to watch this song and dance before we retire and walk away.

 

End it? Who's out there doing it in the first place???

 

It’s a little early to go on the offensive being that we’re only a few months past the amendable date. I’m all for a quick negotiation resulting in a superior contract, but I don’t know how having Insler go all at this point would be received by the public. There is public respect for what we do, but when the company points out what we earn, the 5 weeks of vacation, medical benefits, 16% B fund, free travel......... it is hard for a working family to feel much sympathy. If we want to be treated and paid like white collar professionals, then we should act the part. Negotiating in public won’t accomplish that. I’d love to have a contract to read right now but I don’t. Until then I’ll enjoy a pretty good contract and time at home with my family until the negotiating committee gives me something new to read.

 

Maaaaarrrrrrrrrvvvviiiin.

 

That would be funny if you weren’t serious. Who exactly would read those social media posts and pressure the United board to put Kirby on the hot seat?

What sacrifices would you like to tell the average customer we endured, compared to what they endured in the last decade?

Man you have no clue what actually goes on in this process. That’s understandable, but your post sounds like whining.

 

I don't think you have to worry about Delta getting a new contract anytime soon. CEO has already stated there would be no contract in 2019, and we are really just getting the process rolling.

 

The public doesn’t matter.

There are two parties that matter. The United pilots and management.

 

I single engine taxi every time I’m able too, our job is to operate safely and effectively, contract negotiations take time. We’ll get a contract in due time. You have to remember our union is taking a hard line on a big item that the company feels like it can profit on, it will take some time to reach a compromise and agreement until then just plug along be efficient and safe and let your paid union negotiators do there jobs.