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11-10-2019 | 09:36 AM

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Boeing's fall from grace began when the 757 program was canceled.

What did you expect them to do? It was way too heavy for its mostly domestic mission and no one was ordering it.

11-10-2019 | 10:09 AM

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What did you expect them to do? It was way too heavy for its mostly domestic mission and no one was ordering it.

Smisek, is that you?

Funny how many 757s are running around domestically these days.

11-10-2019 | 10:15 AM

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Grumble:

Actually, all the narrow-body Boeings have that seam along the floor.

It started with the 707. Boeing wanted to use the tooling for the KC-135 for the 707. The mockup was shown with seating 2 and 3 abreast, like a DC-9.

United and Pan Am said “make it 3 and 3.” Boeing: “Too expensive.”

Boom. United and Pan Am both order DC-8s (yes, PAA had 20 or 25 DC-8s a long time ago).

Panic-mode. To re-use as much tooling as possible, Boeing widened the cabin, (by 6 inches, I believe), but not the cargo hold...hence, the 8-shaped cross-section.

Result: Pan Am bought a bunch of 707s, and United bought the 720...so-named so it wouldn’t look like United changed their mind.

On short guppies, the wing fairing and cockpit taper masks this. But this pic shows it to good effect.

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11-10-2019 | 10:44 AM

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Thor

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Boeing's fall from grace began when the 757 program was canceled.

The beginning of the end was the McDonnell Douglass merger.

11-10-2019 | 12:50 PM

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That's gonna be a long time to be crammed in a guppy!

DEN-NAS: 1,877sm

LAX-IAD: 2,288sm
HNL-LAX: 2,556sm
ANC-ORD: 2,846sm

11-10-2019 | 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry in TN

DEN-NAS: 1,877sm

LAX-IAD: 2,288sm
HNL-LAX: 2,556sm
ANC-ORD: 2,846sm

Now now, using math only angers folks.

11-10-2019 | 01:28 PM

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Smisek, is that you?

Funny how many 757s are running around domestically these days.

And doing it at a higher cost than a 737 would. The company has no choice to use them because of the Max being out. Once they come back the 757 will slowly fade away again.

11-10-2019 | 03:08 PM

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And doing it at a higher cost than a 737 would. The company has no choice to use them because of the Max being out. Once they come back the 757 will slowly fade away again.

HEY...I prefer to make decisions on aircraft allocation based on how much more fun they are to fly.