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Triumph 11-05-2019 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by gollum (Post 2917438)
Would be interesting if the company made us submit proof of service for mil leave days such as LES showing that the days were actually worked.



Anyone who thinks people don’t abuse mil leave around the holidays are either completely naive or just delusional.



They company actually does make “us” submit proof during random audits that just about every one of us actual service members has had to comply with.

You continue to speak on a topic you literally know nothing about. Time to worry about yourself and not so much about what others are doing.



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tankerdude 11-05-2019 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Triumph (Post 2918362)
They company actually does make “us” submit proof during random audits that just about every one of us actual service members has had to comply with.

You continue to speak on a topic you literally know nothing about. Time to worry about yourself and not so much about what others are doing.



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How does that work with USERRA? You still have to account for every period under 31 days? Or are they looking to only audit longer orders 31 days and over?

gollum 11-05-2019 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by mpilot153 (Post 2918282)
Now that this is turning into a hate on Military Reservist thread, I have a question for the haters.

If the benefits of the Military Reserve are so great, why didn’t you join? Seriously, if the ability of position yourself to Mil Drop a Christmas trip is so great, why didn’t you join?

Yes, I’ve met some people who tried to join, but had a medical issue that is within standards for a 1st Class, but not a military flight physical... Generally, those are the people that understand what it is about, and not the keyboard commandos saving screenshots of other peoples schedules.

For everyday of Mil Leave I’ve dropped, I have a corresponding LES to match it. The company does do random audits, and some not so random audits...and I have been audited...and I turned in the paperwork to pass the audit. Dropping Mil Leave & not performing Mil Leave sounds like a great way to get fired from both jobs.

In a couple years, once I retire, someone junior to me might have 1 month where he has what appears to be a better schedule than me because of MLLV. I won’t waste one brain cell on whether or not it is fair, because:
1. I’m no longer on the hook for a year long Mobilization to Djibuti for a deployed staff tour
2. I’m no longer Mil Dropping 60 days/year at a 50% paycut
3. I show up to an Air Conditioned jetway, in an an Air Conditioned plane, and have a contract that requires them to feed me a desert with the crew meal.

To your questions above... I have and I continue Serve and I while I have had the opportunity to “take advantage” of mil leave, I refuse to do for anything other than legitimate purposes (and yes it almost cost me a job once because I refused to show up to indoc and immediately drop mil leave KNOWING I had a 6 month deployment starting the Second week of indoc). You are certainly entitled to your opinions as I am entitled to my opinions (based on both conversations with and direct observations of other mil folks) and I have spent a **** ton of time In ****ty places to ensure that I am allowed to have those opinions.

Most reservists do the right thing but the simple fact remains that there are military reservists who abuse mil leave (Especially during first couple of years with an airline) and unfortunately it’s those individuals who make a bad name for all of US. So when you say “ worry about yourself and not so much about what others are doing,” when someone else’s actions reflect poorly on a group I am associated with, it is my business.

Beaver Hunter 11-05-2019 04:08 PM

The Mil shield that protects one from scrutiny. Like the racist card. Not allowed to question anyone anymore. Unless your storming the beach of Normandy. You all have a pretty good deal. It's a all volunteer force. No lectures from your crowd please. We all know the deal. Wink wink.
Before you throw down the , you could have joined card. The military is not for everyone.
Please stop with that BS line.

mpilot153 11-05-2019 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by Beaver Hunter (Post 2918567)
The Mil shield that protects one from scrutiny. Like the racist card. Not allowed to question anyone anymore. Unless your storming the beach of Normandy. You all have a pretty good deal. It's a all volunteer force. No lectures from your crowd please. We all know the deal. Wink wink.
Before you throw down the , you could have joined card. The military is not for everyone.
Please stop with that BS line.

Question = Yes


Originally Posted by Deathray (Post 2917927)
Players are pretty weak sauce to screw their fellow players like that.

Slinging insults & calling Military Reservists weak sauce and accusing them of screwing their fellow crew members?

How would you suggest an appropriate response?

KonaJoe 11-05-2019 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by Beaver Hunter (Post 2918567)
The Mil shield that protects one from scrutiny. Like the racist card. Not allowed to question anyone anymore. Unless your storming the beach of Normandy. You all have a pretty good deal. It's a all volunteer force. No lectures from your crowd please. We all know the deal. Wink wink.
Before you throw down the , you could have joined card. The military is not for everyone.
Please stop with that BS line.

Not agreeing or disagreeing with what you wrote, but dude you write (ironically) like a Colonel at war against commas. You needed so many and yet the only one you used was so tragically misplaced.

Airhoss 11-05-2019 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by Beaver Hunter (Post 2918567)
The Mil shield that protects one from scrutiny. Like the racist card. Not allowed to question anyone anymore. Unless your storming the beach of Normandy. You all have a pretty good deal. It's a all volunteer force. No lectures from your crowd please. We all know the deal. Wink wink.
Before you throw down the , you could have joined card. The military is not for everyone.
Please stop with that BS line.

So who’s worse LCAL Mil guys or LUAL mil guys? As long as we are doing them and us...

Triumph 11-05-2019 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Beaver Hunter (Post 2918567)
The Mil shield that protects one from scrutiny. Like the racist card. Not allowed to question anyone anymore. Unless your storming the beach of Normandy. You all have a pretty good deal. It's a all volunteer force. No lectures from your crowd please. We all know the deal. Wink wink.

Before you throw down the , you could have joined card. The military is not for everyone.

Please stop with that BS line.



Yawn.... move along.... it’s a ****ing contest you won’t win.


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