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beavf16 11-03-2019 02:54 PM

Do you really save screen shots of some other dude's bid from 11 months ago?

APC225 11-03-2019 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by beavf16 (Post 2917351)
Do you really save screen shots of some other dude's bid from 11 months ago?

That right there.

gollum 11-03-2019 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis (Post 2917208)
You mean like this guy from the December bid period last year? I’d have to look again but I believe his BES didn’t have anything less than 2 day trips. His commander must be one ball buster to have that poor pilot work one day of mil on Xmas eve and another day of mil on the 26th.

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Would be interesting if the company made us submit proof of service for mil leave days such as LES showing that the days were actually worked.

Anyone who thinks people don’t abuse mil leave around the holidays are either completely naive or just delusional.

gollum 11-03-2019 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2914053)
An AGR tour sucks just as bad as being a junior plebe on the narrow-body in SFO or EWR. I wouldn't want to be in the guard/reserve today, and in today's politically correct no-fun climate of insanity.

First of all, no one is forced to take an AGR tour, it’s strictly voluntary. Second, if it sucked that bad, people wouldn’t volunteer for it. There is usually a reason and for most it’s because it usually pays way better than first year FO pay just about every where when you figure all of the tax free allowances.

steve0617 11-04-2019 09:55 AM

Anybody get lateraled for Dec yet?
 
Anybody get lateraled for Dec from this bid award?

Spicy McHaggis 11-04-2019 11:23 AM

Vacancy 20-03V
 

Originally Posted by beavf16 (Post 2917351)
Do you really save screen shots of some other dude's bid from 11 months ago?



Yeah sure why not? I don’t know the dude or even who it was. I thought it was pretty funny. One Mil day - Xmas off - one Mil day on a plane that has no one or two day trips. But he could have been part of a Santa Claus strike package with a Boxing Day BDA sortie I guess.

Like someone else said, it’s comical to think mil leave isn’t abused by some. At my old joint I flat out heard guys say “oh if I can’t hold it off I’ll get my CO to write me up some orders”.

Here I’ve seen guys below the g line put a couple mil days on the transition when it’s known they need as many reserves as possible. Since PBS can’t give them a reserve line working the transition they’ll get a hard line and someone above will sit reserve because of it.

FWIW this is a total hate the game not the players.

Deathray 11-04-2019 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis (Post 2917769)
Yeah sure why not? I don’t know the dude or even who it was. I thought it was pretty funny. One Mil day - Xmas off - one Mil day on a plane that has no one or two day trips. But he could have been part of a Santa Claus strike package with a Boxing Day BDA sortie I guess.

Like someone else said, it’s comical to think mil leave isn’t abused by some. At my old joint I flat out heard guys say “oh if I can’t hold it off I’ll get my CO to write me up some orders”.

Here I’ve seen guys below the g line put a couple mil days on the transition when it’s known they need as many reserves as possible. Since PBS can’t give them a reserve line working the transition they’ll get a hard line and someone above will sit reserve because of it.

FWIW this is a total hate the game not the players.

Players are pretty weak sauce to screw their fellow players like that.

detpilot 11-04-2019 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis (Post 2917769)
Yeah sure why not? I don’t know the dude or even who it was. I thought it was pretty funny. One Mil day - Xmas off - one Mil day on a plane that has no one or two day trips. But he could have been part of a Santa Claus strike package with a Boxing Day BDA sortie I guess.

Like someone else said, it’s comical to think mil leave isn’t abused by some. At my old joint I flat out heard guys say “oh if I can’t hold it off I’ll get my CO to write me up some orders”.

Here I’ve seen guys below the g line put a couple mil days on the transition when it’s known they need as many reserves as possible. Since PBS can’t give them a reserve line working the transition they’ll get a hard line and someone above will sit reserve because of it.

FWIW this is a total hate the game not the players.

We don't "put a couple of mil days down," we have military duty that we have to accomplish. Some currencies expire monthly... So you'll see things at the end of the month. "When the company needs reserves" should be the last thing on a military pilot's mind when trying to get his dirty taken care of. Now anyone who is putting mil leave on their schedule and not performing duty, will eventually be caught.

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tankerdude 11-05-2019 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by steve0617 (Post 2917712)
Anybody get lateraled for Dec from this bid award?

Not yet, I'm still waiting to hear also. Hopefully its before March.

mpilot153 11-05-2019 08:16 AM

Now that this is turning into a hate on Military Reservist thread, I have a question for the haters.

If the benefits of the Military Reserve are so great, why didn’t you join? Seriously, if the ability of position yourself to Mil Drop a Christmas trip is so great, why didn’t you join?

Yes, I’ve met some people who tried to join, but had a medical issue that is within standards for a 1st Class, but not a military flight physical... Generally, those are the people that understand what it is about, and not the keyboard commandos saving screenshots of other peoples schedules.

For everyday of Mil Leave I’ve dropped, I have a corresponding LES to match it. The company does do random audits, and some not so random audits...and I have been audited...and I turned in the paperwork to pass the audit. Dropping Mil Leave & not performing Mil Leave sounds like a great way to get fired from both jobs.

In a couple years, once I retire, someone junior to me might have 1 month where he has what appears to be a better schedule than me because of MLLV. I won’t waste one brain cell on whether or not it is fair, because:
1. I’m no longer on the hook for a year long Mobilization to Djibuti for a deployed staff tour
2. I’m no longer Mil Dropping 60 days/year at a 50% paycut
3. I show up to an Air Conditioned jetway, in an an Air Conditioned plane, and have a contract that requires them to feed me a desert with the crew meal.


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