Stop whining about how unfair it is that class seniority is based on age. You are in a job that thousands are still trying their hardest to get on at and would gladly take that 756 seat lock and not bat an eye at the 58 year new hire being more senior than they are at age 33. Everyone here is tired of hearing how unfair it’s been for you with kids and home and your commute. Those are you “problems”, not ours.

I was mid to low seniority in my class, forced to the 756 and commuted across the country and sat reserve for easily 6-8 months longer that my senior classmates on the 737 or Airbus. I did not give a rats ass once at how the dust settled with fleet assignments. I was at my dream job and on the path to making a boat load of money, flying piece of cake trips on an awesome fleet with great crew members and still being home more than I ever was as a commuter at a regional.

This is my dream job, I love this job. I'm sorry it comes off as complaining. I'm giving my opinion and with that comes telling my experiences. However sounds like no one wants to hear it and we will stick to the way it has been because well.. that's the way it's always been I guess.

Incorrect. When I was hired in 1997 at United, the class seniority was based on the last 4 digits of your SS #. Mine is 8xxx. That sucked. Pilots are never satisfied. Enjoy your juniority.

If someone doesn’t like how we or any other airlines determines seniority in class, no one is holding a gun to their head to accept the job. Just sayin!!! If someone accepts employment, they accept everything that goes along with that employment. People should not expect to get something that they shouldn’t be able to get. I’m sure that there is another individual that would gladly accept all of the terms and conditions associated with employment here at United.

Nope... as mentioned above it used to be last four digits of your SSN.
2XXX worked out for me pretty well.

It doesn’t matter to anyone bringing it up. We already have thousands behind us in a very short time period. It’s called looking out for the junior. The most selfish act is to look forward and not care about anyone else except those senior to you. Bringing up ways to recruit and retain the best is anything but selfish.

Have you happened to notice the new hire rate now starts with a 9? We have looked out for the new hires. We also give them a hotel for initial training. Other things I would like to see fixed...change the rules for profit sharing so new hires get a pro rated amount for the time they were on property. Bring back consolidation lines for the month after you finish OE.

This thread has gotten dumb.

Lol Hoss, mine didn't do as well here but at previous airline was perfect. Here at UAL the youngest in our class had the best ss number. In the big scheme not to big of a deal.

I agree with everything except this. Hopefully, we're hiring people who are happy to be here, but also eager to make changes that raise the bar. Not that changing the seniority system is raising the bar, by any means.


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We take care of them better than anyone else in the industry. Agree with you on PS and consolidation lines. BL- nobody is complaining if the seat lock rules were as they are. We can do better.