Originally Posted by Winston (Post 2914728)

I can’t figure out why any pilot would have a problem. Every guy ahead of me on mil leave effectively moves me up a number when I bid every month.

That’s a good thing.

Originally Posted by FlewNavy (Post 2914723)

Never heard of a civ background pilot complain about mil leave. Most of the people that really take issue with mil leave ABUSE are separated or retired military. The issue is with the intent of USERRA vs the letter of the law. It was intended for NON-CAREER military to have protection and it can be argued that it is unethical for career military to take an official/unofficial sabbatical from their military career to start a civ career willfully knowing that they will drop mil leave for up to 5 years to secure a govt pension. There aren't many that have chosen this particularly route but enough have done so that it has made it more difficult for veterans between 14-18 years of service to get interviews based on anecdotal evidence only. Those that have decided to use the law to return to a full time military career have secured a very good deal (have your cake and eat it too) when formerly most have had to make a choice to get a seniority number or get an active duty pension. I haven't personally seen the "mil leave to drop undesirable trips" but I know several that have dropped 3-5 years mil leave the moment they have consolidated.

US Code for background info only so y'all can decide for yourself:

§4301. Purposes; sense of Congress
(a) The purposes of this chapter are-
(1) to encourage noncareer service in the uniformed services by eliminating or minimizing the disadvantages to civilian careers and employment which can result from such service;
(2) to minimize the disruption to the lives of persons performing service in the uniformed services as well as to their employers, their fellow employees, and their communities, by providing for the prompt reemployment of such persons upon their completion of such service; and
(3) to prohibit discrimination against persons because of their service in the uniformed services.

Lets get back to talking about MOABs and new hires unhappy with the 756.

Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 2914542)

It's threads (and some comments) like these that make me wish people would actually put their real names on their comments'



Ya want to change how seniority is assigned in your newhire class.. ok.

But man up (or woman up!) and put your name on your post.



Ya think 2 yr seat lock sucks on a 756 out of newhire training.. ok.

But man up (or woman up!) and put your name on your post.



Ya think that Military guy/gals work the system by using mil leave.. ok.

But man up (or woman up!) and put your name on your post.

* For the record, some (probably) do.. but not the majority!



End of the day, some of these comments just make a lot of us shake our heads.. it's all bull****.



Now.. back to the MOAB coming in 2 weeks!



FS, FP and FtC!

Always

Motch

(Peter "Motch" Matschulat.. 756 FO EWR)

Originally Posted by detpilot (Post 2914742)

So after putting my kids to bed, I sit down at the computer and line up my squadron schedule with my United schedule. I see that the only 2 opportunities for that night landing I need so bad fall during United trips. I'm supposed to drop the trip that is most desirable to me because doing otherwise is "artificially boosting my seniority," according to a guy on the internet. Got it.

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Originally Posted by detpilot (Post 2914742)

So after putting my kids to bed, I sit down at the computer and line up my squadron schedule with my United schedule. I see that the only 2 opportunities for that night landing I need so bad fall during United trips. I'm supposed to drop the trip that is most desirable to me because doing otherwise is "artificially boosting my seniority," according to a guy on the internet. Got it.

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Originally Posted by Floyd (Post 2914731)

Put the monocle back in Colonel Klink. I was not complaining about mil leave. A was agreeing to the Cost of Freedom comment. The guy who made the "system drag" comment regarding mil leave is shameful.

Originally Posted by FlewNavy (Post 2914762)

I didn’t say you or imply (Flyd) that you were complaining. I was offering my insight that there were very few that had issues with mil leave and the only people that I personally have seen taken issue believe that it was a personal ethics issue and nothing more.

Originally Posted by Oskeewowow (Post 2914744)

I'm not dumb enough to post my name on an internet forum, but I'll be sure to bring up all my grievances to you the next time we cross 30 west together....


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Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 2914804)

Absolutely nothing "dumb" about it.. guys use to do it before and some still do.
Most people on here already knew me as "Motch" but with all the newhires on board, no reason NOT to identify myself.
Nothing to hide. Never have, never will.

But people throwing out grenades just to stir the pot without identify themselves is a ***** thing to do (and yes, I know that word will get censored!).
My opinion.

Look forward to our chat at 30W. Most people who know me know I'm very vocal.. along with knowing alot about the contract and some of the loopholes.
No problem sharing my info.

Always
Motch
Oh..
Fly Safe, Fly Professionally & Fly the Contract!